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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    Here is where you get tripped up on the timing. They are the SAME EVENT, in that the 7th Trump is THE 3RD Woe Judgment but the 7th Vial is not all of the 3rd Woe Judgment, it is just one out of 7 parts. It's like saying a gallon that has 8 pints and all 8 pints are different juices, but somehow...
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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    Look IMHO, you are wrong on the Rapture, but I don't have to discuss our differences in every post, which makes it seem like we disagree on everything, which is why if I know I disagree on something with someone, I leave it be as far as making it an issue in every post, that is why its a waste...
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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    You might want to quit fibbing sir, I am not an SDA. Until you know what a person is or sin;t it might be best to stay silent on the issue. What I do know is you are not up to speed on the BoR. You can't understand its coded language at all. If I put it down in writing you would quickly...
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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    You simply do not understand the book of Revelation. Evidently, YOU DON'T, because you do not understand the 7th Trump, doesn't END until the 7th Vial is poured out, and Jesus returns. He doesn't return when the 7th Trump is blown per se. Jesus returns at the 7th Vial. Which ends the 3rd Woe...
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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    Yes, the Beast and False Prophet are men who have unclean spirits living in the, hence they are possessed, men filled with a demonic spiritual entity. The dragon is indeed Satan of course. They will be killed, just as Dan. 7:11 says. Here people take THE ALIVE as meaning alive in the flesh, but...
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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    Who said it is? The Day of the Lord AND the Anti-Christs rule is42 mo this, the Second Coming happens at the 7th Vial, wich ends the 3rd Woe, which is......."STARTED"........by the 7th Trump. Rev. 8:13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud...
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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    Dude you might as well stop replying to me, I don't converse with people who are wrong on everything about the Bible. It's a waste of both of our time tbh. I don't mind teaching people who don't know, I may spend hours on mundane facts, but I refuse to discuss things with people who don't know...
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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    Mostly agree, besides a couple of things. BRAVO
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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    Rev. 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day(Day of the Lord BRINGS these Plagues and it lasts 42 Months), death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. 9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication...
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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    Let me OFFICIALLY GO ON RECORD. I disagree with every post you make, that way I don't have to do the RED X mark every time. LET IT BE KNOWN.........I Rondonmon, disagree with every post Truth7t7 posts. PERIOD.
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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    It could be some minute, but it's not, because the 7 Vials are not happening in ONE DAY. The 1st Woe took 5 months, it says so. The 3rd Woe will take 75 days because I know when the Two-witnesses show up, this simple math tells me that from the time they die until the time the Beast dies is 75...
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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    Well, maybe, but the 3rd Woe = ALL 7 Vials, that is not going to come to pass in 3.5 days. The Two-witnesses die 75 days before the Beast because they show up 75 days before the Beast. THE BLESSING spoken about as being 1335 days before these wonders end is the Two-witnesses. What else could be...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    IT WOULD BE A WASTE OF MY TIME TO CONTINUE TO CONVERSE WITH A GUY WHO THINKS HE KNOWS THE SCRIPTURE BUT DOESN'T. In the bible, we are told to dust off our feet and move on. You are so caught up on DESCRIPTORS you can't see THE FACTS.
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    Meaning YOU CAN'T SEE IT...........but I can, which means what? Jesus said he spoke in parables so the world hearing would not hear and seeing would not see. But told his Disciples so they could understand. I can't help those that can't see the obvious brother. You allow your beliefs to override...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    Meaning YOU CAN'T SEE IT...........but I can, which means what? Jesus said he spoke in parables so the world hearing would not hear and seeing would not see. But told his Disciples so they could understand. I can't help those that can't see the obvious brother. You allow your beliefs to override...
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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    The Two-witnesses are DEAD by the time Rev. 16 comes because Rev. 16 is the 3rd Woe. They die at the 2nd Woe. Their PRAYERS do bring the 3rd Woe however, we can agree with that, they just are t here at the time. We can clearly see in Rev. 11 they die at the 2nd Woe.
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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    I think this was to truth 7t7 but we can go with it. That's true, but we were speaking about the Beasts 1260 day rule via his 1260 coronated office as appointed by God, juxtaposed against the Two-witnesses 1260 day timeline. The Two-witnesses die at the 2nd Woe, the Beast dies when Jesus...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    Wrong on both accounts, Paul stated the Dead in Christ would rise, then we which are alive would change in the TWINKLING of an eye (which means we DIE and go to Heaven as Spirit Men). This happens before the 70th week can begin. If I have tod a post or mid tribber this once O have told them 1000...
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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    It's not a "NEW PERIOD" that's just they way you have come t think, that both cover the exact same time period, they don't. The Two-witnesses show up BEFORE the Day of the Lord, which tells you they show up BEFORE the 1260 which starts the Day of the Lord. What you have to overcome is the...
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    Who is the beast that was and is not?

    Your agreeing or disagreeing is irrelevant as pertaining to the facts. AND................What does that have to do when they SHOW UP and when they DIE? Nothing, common sense, and SIMPLE MATH tells us if both have 1260 day offices, and one DIES before the other one DIES then in order to have...