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  1. TMS

    Total Depravity

    Because the bible states that all our righteousness is as filthy rags. Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. All our righteousness is not going to count...
  2. TMS

    Total Depravity

    Being born again represents a new start. Letting go of the old life and living a new life in Jesus. Joh 3:5-6 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is...
  3. TMS

    Total Depravity

    Does anyone believe this? I believe the fallen nature was inherited, but not the act of sin. Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
  4. TMS

    Total Depravity

    I don't think many fully agrees on what total depravity means. It is not a biblical term. But there are lots of verses. I'll try to simplify it. Do you think the bible teaches that when we are born. We are guilty of Adam's sin We are not guilty of Adam's sin.
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    Total Depravity

    Faith and works can not be seperated. Able had faith and did what was pleasing to God. Cain tried to do it HIS way not GODS way. Faith believes and obeys. Read the faith chapter.. Heb 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness...
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    Total Depravity

    We can have a sinful nature (which we all do) but not choose to sin. By grace, through faith Jesus can free us from the bondage of sin. All good comes from God. We are not able to be good or act good without God. Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down...
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    Total Depravity

    Why do children have selfish natures? I agree they are innocent, We are told that we are unable to change our hearts. And our hearts are carnal. Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God...
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    Total Depravity

    People were asking about what Total depravity ment. And if we can believe in it differently calvanists. My research shows that there is a difference between the sinful nature and the sinful act. We are born with a sinful nature, but the action is a choice.
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    Total Depravity

    When does the unbeliever become a believer? By choice or force? When I heard about Jesus the truth set me free. The word caused a change in my heart. God wants all to understand His love which is the gospel. Prophesy is a powerful tool to in helping us to believe. The love is for all.
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    Total Depravity

    It seems to me that many agree that we are unable to save ourselves. BUT the place were we are disagreeing is the election part. The Christ can save all vs. Christ can only save the elected.
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    Total Depravity

    The corrupted nature is a result of the vine, tree we are connected to. Adam was corrupted. We can be grafted into the second Adam. Jesus was not guilty of sin. We are still by nature sinful, but by faith and through grace, Jesus is working to recreate a new heart in us. Justification by...
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    Total Depravity

    Google ... said. John Calvin used terms like "total depravity" to mean that, despite the ability of people to outwardly uphold the law, there remained an inward distortion which makes all human actions displeasing to God, whether or not they are outwardly good or bad. It is not an...
  13. TMS

    Total Depravity

    The calvinist definition and my definition is different. That's why I asked the questions. And hoped people would give the Calvinistic definition.
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    Total Depravity

    Yes, the title makes things a bit confusing My aim was to look at the belief,, TOTAL D.. and see if the bible supports what calvin thought or not. You have made it clear you are not in support of Calvinism. But you do believe in original sin. I think.. They are much debated subjects...
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    Total Depravity

    I agree that we are unable without God. But with the provision made we can follow Jesus. By faith we can be set free. But are we guilty of sin when we are born? No if we have not chosen to disobey God, we are not guilty. But we do, so all have sinned.
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    Total Depravity

    Total depravity... the first point that calvanists believe. Please prove from the word the difference and which is correct, Between.... We are born without sin, sinless. We are born with sinful tendency but not sin. We are born as one that has already sinned.
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    Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

    I agree When the Spirit is in us or we are walking in the Spirit we are going to do what is righteous. But who chooses... do we have choice. ?? Can I choose to follow my flesh rather then the Spirit. I can choose which way I want to walk. The Spirit does all the good in us and we can not...
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    Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

    We are unable to do good without God. But I'm fairly sure that everyone has felt guilt before. Guilt is the holy Spirit working on our hearts. We would not feel it without the goodness of God. If everyone has felt guilt, everyone is a priority for salvation. He wouldn't waste His time on the...
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    Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

    Truth mixed with error = the TULIP analogy. Twisting the bible to fit the concepts. Especially the error of Limited Atonement.
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    Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

    Paul made the unselfish choice He could have chosen both. But he chose to continue. We can choose to walk in the flesh or choose to walk in the Spirit. We have a choice. Free Will. Like Paul