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  1. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    Argument: The Sabbath will be kept in the New Jerusalem! Rev. 21:23 – Rev. 21:25 (NIV) - The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. 24 The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their...
  2. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    Argument: Isaiah proves the Sabbath is eternal, as it will be kept in the earth made new. Isa. 66:22 - Isa. 66:24 (NIV) - “As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me,” declares the LORD, “so will your name and descendants endure. 23 From one New Moon to another and...
  3. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    Argument: The Sabbath is a lasting covenant. Therefore it will never end. Ex. 31:16 -17 (NIV) - The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant. 17 It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the LORD made...
  4. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    Argument: Abraham kept all God's commandments. Therefore he kept the Sabbath. Gen. 26:5 (NIV) - because Abraham obeyed me and kept my requirements, my commands, my decrees and my laws.” This is another false claim that is speculation. The Sabbath was not included in God's covenant with...
  5. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    Argument: Adam and Eve kept the Sabbath. There is no internal evidence Adam and Eve were commanded to keep the weekly Sabbath, or anyone else prior to Israel being at Sinai when the Law of Moses was put forth and codified. It is more wishful thinking. Their line of reasoning here has been one...
  6. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    Argument: God rested on the Sabbath at Creation; he made the day holy, and sanctified the day. Therefore all mankind is bound to keep the day holy. Gen. 2:2-3 (NIV) - By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. 3 And God...
  7. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    James mentions two distinct laws—that is, (1) the royal law and the law of liberty (which are identical) and (2) “the whole law” (which includes the entire Torah, all the Laws of Moses). James tells us that the royal law is “Love your neighbor as yourself.” This law, found in Leviticus 19:18, is...
  8. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    The Apostles opposed the Judaizers that were trying to impose the law on Gentiles. The issue was keeping the Law of Moses. Notice that the Sabbath was not included in the discussion. In the Jewish mind a gentile must first be circumcised before he could keep the Sabbath. This would have been an...
  9. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    WHAT ENDED AT THE CROSS? Jesus Abolished Israel's law with Ten Commandments and regulations. Eph. 2:15 (NIV) - by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. Notice, “the law” is singular that was abolished, not laws. There was just “one law” the Mosaic Law with...
  10. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    SABBATH NOT A LAW FOR CHRISTIANS Researched And Written By Robert K. Sanders Many Seventh-day Adventists have written to challenge why I renounced keeping the 7th day Sabbath that begins sundown Friday through sundown Saturday after 47 years. To answer their objections is the reason for this...
  11. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    By the way, you Sabbatarians have not addressed my assertions regarding the "Sabbath day" and the claim that it is global, and not related to ancient Israel in Palestine. As I have said, if the Sabbath is kept "sunset to sunset" in every locale on earth, this in effect means that someone is...
  12. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    And..by the way...regarding this claim about "creation edicts", I do not hold the view that creation edicts apply necessarily eternally anyways. For instance, Adam and Eve were under the "covenant of works". Righteousness was related to their personal works, and Adam and Eve failed their...
  13. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    By the way, you didn't address my claim. My claim is that calendar observances in general are part of the Mosaic Law, which is no longer in effect. Is it consistent to claim that the Sabbath is in effect, when the annual festivals, New Moons, sabbatical year, and year of Jubilee are not in...
  14. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    I am wondering if you are claiming, once something is set apart or sanctified, it is no longer possible to be taken out of this category. By the way, what you are doing is appealing to "creation edicts", I believe. SDAs make the claim that any command which existed at the creation edict...
  15. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    This meme is a monument at Barrows, Alaska. In Barrows, a single day lasts 2000 hours. The Sun never drops below the horizon during this 83 day period. Ellen G. White, realizing the implications of this, did not allow Seventh Day Adventists to live in areas such as Barrows. This is because...
  16. UnitedWithChrist

    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    He told the Israelites that they needed to keep it holy, and it was one of the signs of the covenant they had with God. The other was physical circumcision. Physical circumcision was the entry sign of the covenant, and the Sabbath was the continuing, remembrance sign. We are not Israelites...
  17. UnitedWithChrist

    Does man have a libertarian free will?

    God does command obedience from all men. The issue is whether fallen man has the moral ability to be obedient to the command. And, if not, why? If you claim all men have the moral ability to be obedient, then you have to deal with Romans, which states that all mankind has sinned, and is, in...
  18. UnitedWithChrist

    Does man have a libertarian free will?

    I know what you're talking about. Actually Reformed is not the best word in regards to that..I would say regenerated..the believer has been given new life, and is a new creation. Reformed implies that the person was initially at moral perfection, and has returned to moral perfection.
  19. UnitedWithChrist

    Does man have a libertarian free will?

    I could discuss a lot of concepts that are fundamental to understanding this storyline, and most free-willer Christians would not understand what I'm talking about. That is because they reject large segments of the biblical revelation and cannot make sense out of the Bible, too much beyond the...