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  1. TMS

    How does a Christian keep the Sabbath Holy?

    Roms 9 is saying Israel pursued the righteousness by their own works, Paul makes it clear we can not attain righteousness by our own effort. "Why? Because they did not persue it (the law) by faith" If i do puesue the law by faith wouldn't i be doing the right thing. If I'm not keeping the law...
  2. TMS

    How does a Christian keep the Sabbath Holy?

    I'm looking for biblical evidence, not commentaries of man. You've made presumptions. PRESUMPTION is what leads to error. Exo 16:25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field. Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath...
  3. TMS

    How does a Christian keep the Sabbath Holy?

    Prove that the Lords day is sunday. Many think it is with no evidence. Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: Isa 56: 6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his...
  4. TMS

    How does a Christian keep the Sabbath Holy?

    I'm not judging, just persuaded that the 4th commandment is not a shadow law. The sabbath was made holy and set aside at creation. The sabbath was given before sin and before we needed a saviour. What is a shadow. No saviour = no shadow of a saviour. After sin laws were introduced that...
  5. TMS

    How does a Christian keep the Sabbath Holy?

    You can't say the sabbath was only for Israel. God wants all to keep the sabbath and enjoy the blessing. Isa 56: 6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from...
  6. TMS

    How does a Christian keep the Sabbath Holy?

    The sabbath was made for all man kind by God, Jesus. Sunday worship was made for man by man. It isn't about Jew or Gentile. If you study history. The Christians believed they were parts of Gods people (Israelites, or jews, by faith.) It was the Jews that rejected the Christians and forced...
  7. TMS

    How does a Christian keep the Sabbath Holy?

    Many of the 10 commandments are not repeated in the new testament but are readily accepted as a moral law. If you are looking for reasons to not keep it holy you will convince yourself. But think of it like this... It was made holy at creation. It was keep before the Ten commandments were...
  8. TMS

    How does a Christian keep the Sabbath Holy?

    Jesus is the greatest gift and having Him in our heart 24-7 is the greatest blessing. But the question remains... Are you being lawless if you choose not to obey the 4th commandment? Are you transgressing the law when you do not keep the sabbath day holy?
  9. TMS

    How does a Christian keep the Sabbath Holy?

    I agree, we have been grafted in. Christ is our brother.
  10. TMS

    How does a Christian keep the Sabbath Holy?

    Faith without works is dead. Faith and works go hand in hand with each other. Keeping any law or doing any works will not make us good enough for heaven. Or reverse the guilt of transgressing the law (sin) We need the grace of Jesus. Grace to be forgiven and grace to be transformed. So...
  11. TMS

    Rapture True or False.

    In Zech 14:5 saints can apply to Angels also. Many Angels will come with Jesus when He returns.. there is no evedance that the saints are people that we back to heaven at a earlier time. Phonetic: kaw-doshe' BDB Definition: sacred, holy, Holy One, saint, set apart Origin: from H6942 Strong's...
  12. TMS

    Rapture True or False.

    We may need to disagree. From all the verses and pieces put together it is clear that Jesus will come and it will be heard and seen by everyone. When He comes He will gather the saved and they will go to Heaven to be with Jesus. Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not...
  13. TMS

    Rapture True or False.

    They haven't disappeared. Christ remnant have been persicuted in every age for the last 2000 year. Study history. The catholic church burnt people for having a bible in their presence. And comunistic contries forced christians to give up their faith or die. There has been much persecution...
  14. TMS

    Rapture True or False.

    The Protestant apocalyptic interpretation of history which prophetically pinpointed step by step the events covering the whole Christian era from the beginning to the end (i.e. Historicism) Contrary to Futurism and Preterism, all the classic Reformation confessions, creeds, covenants and...
  15. TMS

    Rapture True or False.

    It was the whole beginnings that have unscriptual teachings. For example the history of Francisco Ribera, who made it his mission to confuse the protestant church's with false teachings to take the heat off the Catholic church. Futurism was invented and is a big part of the doctrine you teach.
  16. TMS

    Rapture True or False.

    An invention of man. According to most researchers, the idea of a Rapture-removal from planet Earth prior to a “great tribulation” period began to surface in the late 18th and early 19th centuries. VAgue mentions of it may have been published in the writings of a famous Calvinist theologian Dr...
  17. TMS

    Rapture True or False.

    If you build a doctrine on a foundation that is wrong the whole thing will be wrong. The secret rapture, pretrib rapture is an invention of men
  18. TMS

    Rapture True or False.

    When i read the bible, i don't find God causing His remnant to disappear just before the hard times. I do see God warning and preparing His people. I do see God giving advice to His people. I do see God targetting groups of people. But the times of trouble came and the people of God were...
  19. TMS

    Rapture True or False.

    You are teaching that we get a second chance if we miss out the first time. The bible doesn't say we get a second chance. In Noah's day the door closed and that was it. No second chance. When probation closes it is finished everyone's case will have been forever decided. Rev 22:11 He that...
  20. TMS

    Rapture True or False.

    That's not what the bible states. No pre tribulation. Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. Jesus comes and then the marriage supper begins. Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold...