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  1. Shamah

    Not By Works

    SO Im wrong because when I read His words I know they are right" Umm, maybe it is because I miss spelled "spirit"? "Their spieir will not seek things that are not of Him and His path" it was supposed to read: " Their spirit will not seek things that are not of Him and His path " maybe you...
  2. Shamah

    Rev 6:1&2 The white horseman,

    I miss spoke here, my mistake, before the vials not after... correction: The Messiah’s return is not until after all the seals and trumpets, at the 7th Trump to be exact (Rev 11:15), this alone is proof that it can not be the same “white horse.”
  3. Shamah

    Rev 6:1&2 The white horseman,

    The word "bow" is word #G G5115 τόξον toxon (to'-xon) n. a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric). [from the base of G5088] KJV: bow Root(s): G5088 thunder is word #G G1027 βροντή bronte (ɓron-tee') n. thunder. [akin to bremo “to roar”] KJV: thunder(-ing) You would have to expound on what...
  4. Shamah

    Rev 6:1&2 The white horseman,

    Rev 6:2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer. NKJV “A white horse,” there is another part of revelation that mentions a white horse; Revelation 19:11-16, “11 And I saw heaven opened, and...
  5. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Mosheh accuses them because Mosheh said Yahshua was "The PROPHET" we muct hear and obey, and they refused... John 5:45-47,“45 “Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father. There is one who accuses you: Mosheh, in whom you have set your expectation."46 “For if you believed Mosheh, you...
  6. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Acts 7:37-38, “This is the Mosheh who said to the children of Yisra’yl, ‘יהוה your Mighty One shall raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brothers. Him you shall hear.’ This is he who was in the assembly in the wilderness with the Messenger who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our...
  7. Shamah

    Free will is an unbiblical concept

    praiseYah! I have to say this, we may disagree on some doctrinal issues, obviously on this we agree, but to me this, this choice is the root of the thought in my head that makes me promote do His will, I feel He put it on my heart, but in my thoughts, and not to reject what He has guided me to...
  8. Shamah

    Free will is an unbiblical concept

    EXACTLY! How could the judge make righteous judgemement if He forced anyone to do anything... Psalm 19:9, “The fear of יהוה is clean, standing forever; The right-rulings of יהוה are true, They are righteous altogether.” Psalm 19:9, “The fear of יהוה is clean, standing forever; The...
  9. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Generally I hold the same/similar view but I word it differently, it may be symantics or it may be a meaning ful difference any who are saved are saved by YHWH, there is nothing I can do works or faith, in the end it is His choice who enters the Kingdom. No one is going to show up at judgement...
  10. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Hmm seems you have a pre-disposition of what I beleive rather than actually looking at what I am saying... Those that are in Him are going to do His will because it is right. Their spieir will not seek things that are not of Him and His path. Ezekiel 36:26-28, "A new heart, will I also give...
  11. Shamah

    Free will is an unbiblical concept

    John 7:17, “If anyone chooses to do His desire, he shall know concerning the teaching, whether it is from YHWH, or whether I speak from Myself.”
  12. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Again I can find a single appearance of similarity between what you say and the Catholic Chirch, yet I dont use it to buch you up with them in an attempt to discredit... So none can promote following His path without being a "works salvationist" yep.... John 8:51 “Truly, truly, I say to you...
  13. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Red flag huh? G4100 πιστεύω pisteuo (piy-stev'-ō) v. 1. to trust (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), i.e. credit. 2. (passively) to be convinced. 3. (also) to entrust (especially with one's spiritual well-being to Christ). [from G4102] KJV: believe(-r), commit (to trust), put in...
  14. Shamah

    Not By Works

    cont. Yes, so how could anyone call someone promoting "righteous works before Yah" be called justified by works unless they are literally saying the works alone save? Or is "practicing right/evil just mean beleive? John 5:28-30, “Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all...
  15. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Well to those who don't know the Messiah it is key that they get to know Him. For those that do know Messiah it is key that they follow Him. Can't follow Him without doing/being obedient to what He said. None are perfect yet this does not mean we ignore His Instructions. I assume the majority...
  16. Shamah

    Not By Works

    ok, so you ignore this, do you accept Paul's writings? Romans 2:12, “For as many as have sinned without the Law, will also perish without the Law, and as many as have sinned in the Law, will be judged by the Law.” Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there...
  17. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Well James says workless faith can't save: James 2:14, “My brothers, what use is it for anyone to say he has belief but does not have works? This belief is unable to save him.” So all the excuse that it is about "proving before men" and that being the only application here is false. Cant...
  18. Shamah

    Not By Works

    So Im sure you have seen me being called "pharisee, pharisee lawyer, justified by works etc".. Yet never have I said works get people into the kingdom. Why such a diagreement with those that preach obedence is right? I have seen others that main focus here is promoting obedience to Yah by...
  19. Shamah

    Not By Works

    The core foundational doctrine taught by the Messiah is that we do as He taught: Matthew 28:19-20, “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And...
  20. Shamah

    Not By Works

    No its not a strawman, anyone that promotes obedience here gets called names and said they preach "justified by works" I have had these said to me a number of times yet I have not once said "obedience is what gets people into the kingdom" It when I post verses like this I get accused...