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  1. Shamah

    Not By Works

    No I did not say everytime he says Law its pharisee tradtion, quote me saying that? you are putting words in my mouth and finding me guilty... Im done for today Cee. THis shows the when Paul lived as a Pharisee at that time he was the overseer in the field of Stephens murder, approved of the...
  2. Shamah

    Not By Works

    how does this statement by me promote "works salvation" its nto even hinted at, it seems you are reading into my words what you want to, but none the less here: Here I will post the passage and then give my view: Exodus 12:47-49, “All the congregation of Israel shall keep it. And when a...
  3. Shamah

    Not By Works

    I understand your objective here. If you can prove that Paul killed believers then you can say that the Law he said is obsolete wasn't the Law given in the OT. But have you forgotten that David was blameless to the Law and he killed people? Or even Elijah? Or Samuel? These men all killed...
  4. Shamah

    Not By Works

    we may word things differently but we seem to agree on some things, these were the points of contention: Ok quote a single time that I said this or hinted at it? Im not being rude I am speaking openly, you can not because I have not. But if you can please do. Yet these things you say of...
  5. Shamah

    Not By Works

    if one believes in Him they will be chaged ny Him and will walk in His ways, to say one believes but never turn to Him shows a disbelief. 1 Yahanan /John 2:3-7, “And by this we know that we know Him, if we guard His commands. The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a...
  6. Shamah

    Not By Works

    I believe YHWH saves. That anyone who has siunned a single sin worthy of death needs His mercy, obtained by the blood of Yahshua (YHWH;s Salvation) and that nobody can be "good enough" to enter on their own merits. THIS DOES NOT in any way mean the we are to ignore His...
  7. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Yes every verse I post is 100% out of context... of couse so they all mean nothing. Here I will just touch onw one this you said because Im tired of going over and over and it mostly gets ignored. So you said this: Did Paul know the Law as a man of YHWH/Yahshua or as a Pharisee? The pharisees...
  8. Shamah

    Not By Works

    continued: Acts 3:22-23, “For Mosheh truly said to the fathers, ‘יהוה your Mighty One shall raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brothers. Him you shall hear according to all matters, whatever He says to you. And it shall be that every being who does not hear that Prophet shall be...
  9. Shamah

    Not By Works

    You were the one who started off talking to me by saying I preach "justification by works" So I think you started the accusations. I see you quote the Messiah in John 6. Is that the only time His words matter? John 14:21, “he who possesses My commands and guards them, it is he who loves Me...
  10. Shamah

    Sabbath

    Good point, now we know Scriptures dont cancel eachother out, and those ones I posted had a meaning and showed something.. So how is it the same COvenant yet has changes? Its different because there is no Levitical priesthood, Yahshua is Hgih Priestm, huge difference. again PS 105 makes it...
  11. Shamah

    Not By Works

    John/Yahanan 10:16, "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice. So there will be one flock, one Shepherd (4166 - poimén)." John/Yahanan 14:6, "Yahshua proclaimed to him: I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man comes to the...
  12. Shamah

    Not By Works

    The only 2 chioces are not "works salvation" or "mystery of iniquity" that is a clowns approach. Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until John, since that time the Kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than...
  13. Shamah

    Not By Works

    wrong. these are His commands: Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself...
  14. Shamah

    What is the "yoke" of Messiah?

    So Him making intercession for us is not a part of His work for our Salvation? Hebrews 7:24-25,"but He, because He remains forever, has an unchangeable priesthood. Therefore He is also able to save completely those who draw near to יהוה through Him, ever living to make intercession for them."...
  15. Shamah

    Not By Works

    “iniquity” is word # G458 - anomia Strong's Concordance, lawlessness, Short Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) 1) the condition of without law 1a) because ignorant of it1b)...
  16. Shamah

    Not By Works

    doctrine aside, Im talking about the grammar I what I posted and was accused of. It was blatantly ignoring what I said and focusing on the part that could be used against me. Midrashic intrepratation if you will... On the doctrinal side... if you call this bondage: 1 John 5:2-3, "By this we...
  17. Shamah

    What is the "yoke" of Messiah?

    Wow this is a really beautiful thought. It really personallizes and describes His effort in saving us. praiseYah! Hebrews 4:14-15, "Seeing then that we have a great High Priest Who has ascended into the heavens: Yahshua the Son of יהוה, let us hold fast our profession. For we do not have a High...
  18. Shamah

    Sabbath

    Yes I beleive it is the same because if we look at PS 105 there is no doubt that the Covenant made with Abraham was continued with Israel: Psalms 105:6-10, “O seed of Aḇraham His servant, Children of Ya‛aqoḇ, His chosen ones! He is יהוה our Strength; His right-rulings are in all the earth. He...
  19. Shamah

    Not By Works

    after looking at this again, wow your are such a accusing deceiver. look at it: lets say for a second I was saying "sin not" I wan not but lets say... LOOK AT THE CONTEXT!!! "bondage to sin not""? If I was saying sin not, I would then be calling it bondage to sin not.... NOT SINNING IS...
  20. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Sounds great but it is not Scriptual... Can y ou provide a Scripture? Yahshua/Jesus 1,000 reigin is what the Sabbath represents... Revelation 14:13, "And I heard a voice from heaven saying to me: Write: Blessed are the dead, the ones dying in the Messiah from now on! Yes, says the Spirit...