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Some still haven't recognized that IT HAS COME.

If you read the post again, the only other requirement is the grace of God. All that comes after this is simply the product of grace and not the cause of salvation. In this regard they aren't required for salvation.

Yes I agree with scripture. My point, however, was that God Himself took care of all that He required.

Presbytery is a group.

I don't disagree with anything you shared. And spiritual gifts are definitely considered in choosing church officials. I'm merely pointing out that laying on of hands wasn’t restricted to apostles.

Doesn’t 1 Timothy 4:14 say the gift was imparted as the elders or presbytery laid hands on Timothy?

Who laid hands on them? Who qualified them? Did an apostle qualify them? And why them? Who decided? And what do you need a pastor for? Don't you have the Spirit within you to teach you all things?

Do you have a pastor?

Do you attend a church?

The absence of a list of means doesn't negate what is clearly taught in scripture. Do you not possess any spiritual gifts?

You obviously didn't get the gift of discernment. As for the gifts you have received, edify away.

The gifts were the result of the Holy Spirit, always have been. 1 Corinthians 12:11 teaches that He imparts the gifts as He sees fit. That He employed the laying on of hands at times does not limit Him to only doing so.

I never mentioned anything about this truth. I merely stated that gifts were still in effect because the church hasn't reached maturation. I'm surprised you didn't discern this.

The gifts are a help to the church to aid in the maturation of the Christian.

That which is perfect is referring to maturity. It is also referencing the body of Christ. If this site is a representative cross section of the church, the gifts are definitely still in operation.

I find this answer acceptable, but it's not recommended by 4 out of 5 doctors.

When Muslims do not ascribe deity to Jesus, is this not the ultimate disrespect?

I've already stated that the reason Jesus came was to provide atonement...shed blood on the cross for the remission of sin...and fulfill the law...to provide righteousness. This is what God required for salvation. The only other thing necessary for salvation is the grace of God to come to an...

Still no comment on the verse I shared?

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