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  1. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    That is mantalk. The scripture you began to quote but veered off into commentary goes on to say it is impossible for God to be tempted of evil neither tempts He any man.
  2. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    you can't see beyond this seeming impossible conundrum because .... because you have chosen to learn these doctrines from men, good men, I think Calvin is a brilliant theologian, Spurgeon is beloved to me. Yet when I read that God predestined men to be damned I sought God and cried for...
  3. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    because having believed we must also receive. We have to seal the deal. God having subdued our will He is ready to will in us to do of His good pleasure. Paul was told to go to the street called Straight in Damascus and enquire of one Ananias, there Ananias laid his hands upon him and he was...
  4. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    Your reading of that scripture runs thus If God damned the Jews for their unbelief so we can be damned too if we disbelief. Grafting in or out of the olive tree does not equate to salvation or damnation it has to do with blessing or the lack of it.
  5. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    God subdues the human will, subjucates it to His own. We put our hands up in surrender. I have never understood why Christians would object to this, He is God, He has the right subjucate our wills to His own. If it were a man then yes we may protest and rebel but it is God. And He knows us...
  6. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    I BELIEVE in sovereign election unto the church, we are chosen before all worlds were begun to be a people for praise of God's glorious grace. chosen to be conformed to the image of the Beloved, God's Son. This excludes nobody from being saved.
  7. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    Not all will be saved, but the quarrel is about whether this is by God's decree. That God has decreed death to the sinner and has from the beginning faithfully warned every man is PROOF that sin is not His decree. God has no truc with sin or the father of it.
  8. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    You are better than this. You are a Dispensationalist, we all are since we are not under the law but under grace. I believe the church and not Israel will go through the Great Tribulation, the Great Tribulation is Antichrist's final attempt to destroy all religion [with the possible exception...
  9. Evmur

    The killer flaw in pre-tribulation rapture doctrine

    your opinion not mine.
  10. Evmur

    The killer flaw in pre-tribulation rapture doctrine

    They are the same judgement, There is only one last judgement where eternal destinies are decided.
  11. Evmur

    The killer flaw in pre-tribulation rapture doctrine

    The last judgement comes at the end of the 1, 000 years.
  12. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    The great misfortune with any falseness of doctrine is you get snagged upon it, it acts like a lasso that throws you and pins you down and you can't move on to greater light. You are stuck as though in a groove, you spend your whole life on this one point of doctrine, trying to prove it. It's...
  13. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    there ya go again first the scripture then the scholarly workings out by human logic which you hold as equal truth. See, when I read Paul "I would oh Agrippa that all men were as me apart from these chains" I see no limitation on God's part but see only Agrippa held back in bondage. We...
  14. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    So then you were saved by your humility, not only so but you were very wise and prudent to recognise that salvation is by faith.
  15. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    This is what I object to You quote the scripture and then you quote the workings out of these scriptures by scholarly men and hold both up as the received truth of equal value Human logic is not an adequate interpreter of scripture, this is just the fault I find with Calvin. Logically he would...
  16. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    nowhere in scripture is a limited atonement taught, the only place God's mercy is limited is where merciless persons are warned that they will receive no mercy. Predestiny and election pertain to the church, the body of Christ ... it prevents nobody from being saved.
  17. Evmur

    The killer flaw in pre-tribulation rapture doctrine

    there are not 2 final judgements when the King will come and sit upon His glorious throne Matt: 25. When ALL nations will be gathered before Him and given their final destination. It is called the resurrection of the living and the dead. There are 2 sorts of people there. In the GWT judgement...
  18. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    you nor Jonathan Edwards awoke one morning saved ... salvation doesn't happen that way.
  19. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    Paul's message is unlimited grace, "I would Agrippa that all men would become as I am yet without these chains"
  20. Evmur

    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    Here is what YOU do not understand ... God's anger at mankind for sin has been expended, fully expended at the cross, God has suspended the time for the final judgement of sin, He has appointed a day. We are living in the epoch of God's grace. John [my Strict and Particular friend] taught that...