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I agree with these yeah. For more information about how I view the trinity:

Can I hijack your thread a little bit, could you chime in on my thread, id value your opinion on this: https://christianchat.com/threads/are-the-trumpets-and-vials-chronological-in-revelation.212185/post-5131001

@HealthAndHappiness So what about that Revelation 21:8 How exactly are Christians exempt from that list? (And Galatians 5:19-21 and 1 Cor 6:9-10) To me Paul is clear, he says be not deceived, you do these things and you will NOT inherit the kingdom. Nothing about it applying to unbelievers only

Who lied that to you? That person is an ENEMY of God. Not biblical at all. James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. John 15:19 If you were of the world, it...

Thanks. So what is the event of chronology? Seals -> trumpets -> and vials?

Thanks id appreciate it. Im not here to debate, im here to learn what you believe about it. To me it seems to say: People who do these things go to the lake of fire, UNLESS of course, they stop doing them.

I have of course. But Revelation 21:8 says what it says, doesn't that mean people should STOP doing those things. And if they don't, well , Revelation 21:8 says it, their place is in the second death. Sounds kinda like 1 Corinthians 6:9, dont be deceived Paul warns

But dont you see that what the OP is describing is precisely the fruit of the easy believism? The reason people are saying someone who robbed a bank and got shot by the cops in the midst of it goes to heaven 100% surely is because "Well I knew him, he had a good heart, he believed in Jesus"...

Thats what I was thinking as well. Let me know what do you believe is the order in which the seals trumpets and vials unfold? The last vial, trumpet and seal seem to have "this is the end" attached to them, not only do the islands flee but in the seventh trumpet it says the kingdoms of this...

Twice? Notice one of them is at the 6th seal, another one is at the 7th vial

Thanks this cleared it up, so we know for sure that the FINAL thing to occur is the vials. Can you comment on why the last seal and last vial both have islands "fleeing"? Revelation 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved...

Quote from the article I linked: " When you read the 6th seal of Revelation and compare it with what Jesus said about His coming in Matt 24, it is hard not to see that they are describing the same event. And note that Jesus said this is what happens right at the end, 'after the tribulation of...

https://jesusplusnothing.com/series/post/chronology-of-revelation This guy sums up better what I have noticed, the last trumpet seal and vial all seem to be "THE END"

Does it say that somewhere? If it does I think thats a slam dunk there.

I would like to discuss your guys' view on the trumpets and vials of the book of Revelation Are they in chronological order? Meaning first you have the 7 trumpets, then the 7 vials. Or are they overlapping? Meaning you have one trumpet, one vial, second trumpet, second vial etc. The judgments...

Yes it does: Hebrews 8:13 In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away. Which it did vanish in AD70 when the temple was destroyed

Are the plagues in chronological order? 1st seals, then trumpets, then vials? Because to me the 7th trumpet and the seal in which the stars fall is pretty much the second coming in two different angles. The vials and trumpets are also really similar, in trumpets though its only a 3rd of...

So Oneness it is, gotcha.

What do you believe then? Unitarianism? Oneness?

That is some WEIRD theology there. Never heard of that! Not biblical whatsoever. Beware folks