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Inspired by a digression elsewhere in the forum as well as a recurring theme that just pops up generally in the modern day America I figured I will take another stab at making a topic here. Last time we tried to explore Mary, the greatest of all women to ever live, but this actually...

There you go flattering me again as if I were the judge, you're going to make me blush if you keep that up. No, I have the correct conclusion because it's not even really my conclusion. God's judgment will be done, it's not horrific for those that actually love God, it is of course extremely...

No, I think you're just getting all your assumptions jumbled together incoherently just because simply you don't like that I am right for some reason, which I mean go ahead, it's not going to change anything.

Well that's where the unlearned go very wrong in thinking that the past and the OT were different judgments or were more severe than the NT and the latter judgments. In fact the NT and the future judgment is way more severe. It is severe enough that the apostles foretell in stunning accuracy...

If you had read them then you would see pretty easily what I am saying. As for judgment, I wonder if I should be flattered that you think I am the judge? Alas no though, the judgment is God's, I just don't deny what he judges nor attempt to defend the wicked that he has judged to be wicked...

I don't think you read those verses too closely then.

Jesus didn't call for the righteous to repent, but for the sinners to repent. This is where many in the modern times go very wrong, they want the righteous to repent of believing what God says. That's their first feeble and futile defense really for the wicked. It's kinda cliche really and...

Wouldn't you know that the NT says that Jesus is the leader of our army and that he kills Jezebel and all her soldiers. That's why it's vain for them to defend Jezebel and try to make excuses for her ways instead of heeding Jesus' call to repentance.

I'm not talking about hell or the punishments in hell. At this point we'll just go in circles, so I'm just going to believe John because he says there is a sin unto death and sin not unto death, and I'm going to believe Moses because God pretty thoroughly explained to Moses the nature of sin...

I don't see how that has any bearing really. Moses is not a murderer, Moses never killed anyone that was innocent. Moses sin was not a sin unto death, but it was he did not give glory to God because the people provoked him in the wilderness to give them water from a rock. For this Moses paid...

I'm just replying to you frankly, you can assume whatever you want. Again, it's actually not that hard to not commit a sin worthy of death, the sins worthy of death are few and very extreme sins, I would not be surprised if many of the members of the forum have never committed a sin unto death...

Not really. Perhaps you don't know the difference between murder and justice. Again murder is putting the innocent to death. If someone deserves to die on the other hand and they get killed that's not murder, that's justice.

I'd be more shocked if there is a revised version of the Bible that tries to make Moses into a murderer. Oh if you mean Paul, then it's possible he was a murderer, it just says he persecuted the Christians, not neccessarily that he murdered them, though I suppose you could in fairness consider...

No Moses was not a murderer. If you mean Saul the king of Israel, no he was not a murderer either, his sin was disobeying God by unjustly refusing to put the Amalekites to death. David was an adulterer yes and he got sore cursed for that, so cursed that his children killed eachother and tried...

It's in their hearts sure, but there is also a big difference between actually committing adultery and thinking about it. You're not guilty for your thoughts, cause you could just put those evil imaginations to death then in your heart and they will never go further, you're guilty for your actions.

No, you're not correct in either line. Mindful this quote about the sins unto death is from the New Testament at that. The sins unto death are merely delineated and explained further in the Old Testament. It's not like there's new rules just because there's the New Testament, in fact it's...

There's several sins unto death. Literally any of the sins where God says to put them to death, that's a sin unto death. We're not even to pray for those that commit the sins unto death according to the apostles.

Well I didn't say everyone was righteous, I said it's not too hard to not commit a sin worthy of death nor is it hard to not be a defender of the wicked. There is a sin unto death and there is a sin not unto death, there is a difference and your Bible will say that.

When the vast majority of their generation does evil, defends evil, thinks evilly, and all their ways are evil. You will find this concept in the Bible that there are generations that are pretty evil. Some generations get so evil that God outright blots their society out after passing his...

Believe it or not, it's not actually that hard to not commit a sin worthy of death nor is it hard to not defend it. For most of history most of humanity were able to do it until one generation from the 1960s thought they knew better than God.