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  1. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    I don't think I have ever denied Yeshua, who, and what He has done for us. However I don't think you willl ever see me bow to teachings that aren't in line with the Word. As what you have said in the last post, are the main reason that we as gentiles have little hope of reaching Israel in a...
  2. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    As we look at Abram, we start in Gen. 12. As this opens we find HaShem telling Abram, "Hay pack your bags and leave your family, home land, and way of life behind, then come and follow Me." Ok so I am not posting the exact words, sue me. However I am giving the intent. So why would I say it...
  3. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    Do you follow the feast? Any of them? Passover is teh most common feast that some say they follow.
  4. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    At the risk of being a bit misunderstood, I am going to make some points you may not understand, or like. Then as in any conversation that happens. First you may see me as lost by this, however I place my faith in HaShem. It was Him that gave us salvation from the start, and Him that gave...
  5. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    As I said we are now going to look at Torah and see if we can find faith followed by obedience as the way to salvation. Please keep in mind that Yeshua said that to find life we must follow the commandments. Mat. 19:17. Noah, thought not what many would see as a shining example of faith, was...
  6. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    You like circles I see. Well I really don't. What I said in post #20 is clear, the Law stands. As to the fact that not one person holds an understanding of the Word that can't be questioned, if you place your understanding out there, someone will question it. To make my point. Even though...
  7. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    When we look at the RED LETTERS, do we take it to heart? I know everyone will say yes to this. Yet some of the same peopel will turn to Paul to try and dismiss the Words of Yeshua. Do they know they are doing this? I really don't think they do. just as I really don't think they hold an...
  8. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    I wish to say thank you once more for the link. I listened to the first one, and though I may not agree with everything said, it does give food for thought. So I will be going back to it with an open mind.
  9. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    Please see post #20
  10. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    After looking back I may have misspoke, for that I am sorry. Although I had made it clear in post #20 that salvation comes by faith, and not by any work of our own, I did fail to build on that. So it is likely that it was over looked. That is my reason for saying we must read everything, not...
  11. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    If you read my post you know that isn't the case. I however have came to expect this on here. Sad as it may be, and no matter how I point to FAITH as the grounds of salvation, in both O.T. and N.T. someone always wishes to say I think the law is the foundation of everything. Though in truth...
  12. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    The point being that if one fails in studying the full story they miss most of the truth given on the topic.
  13. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    I do agree, that is a bit extreme after all, you would need a way to tie so much that isn't in the O.T. to the actions taken in the N.T. Oddly even the dream Peter had on the roof can be traced to the O.T. if one wishes to use some mental gymnastics. It is how ever easy to tie to Rabbinic law...
  14. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    In all truth the only way one can learn is to place all scripture in context with all other scripture. When one tells us that Paul said the law was removed, changed, or in anyway suspended, they turn to Paul. Yet when faced with the fact that Yeshua told us, Mat 5:17"Don't misunderstand why I...
  15. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    To get back on topic, we really need to look at the truth/gospel found with in the writing of Word. Trust me when I say, and will repeat many times, none of us can say we hold an understanding that is without question the only truth out there. When it comes to sacrifice there simply is no...
  16. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    True, and that makes it truth does it not? Now can we get back on topic.
  17. Rainrider

    How can one learn?

    Yet as you point out, it seems to be the them on here. You may see what I do as trying to make my understanding seem more ture than others. However as I make clear I know I don't hold all the answers. Yet I am also just as sure that not one person on this earth does. however if working to...
  18. Rainrider

    How can one learn?

    He made it so that sin was washed away not just covered. As to the law being set asaid, that is not what Yeshua told us. In Mat.5:17-18 He made it clear that the law would in way be changed, removed, or put on hold. As it stands you have said nothing that will ever change this. The truth of...
  19. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    As gospel means truth, and Yeshua said Mat 19:17“Why ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. But to answer your question—if you want to receive eternal life, keep the commandments.” Also Yeshua use the Torah in his teachings, and spoke of the Law often. making...
  20. Rainrider

    The right why to learn

    Yes you have misunderstood. As we know, the N.T. was not cannoned until 350ad or so. As you to your first point I am not sure what it would be. After all there was in all truth no N.T. for the apostles to teach by. As to your second point, it is true that salvation is spoke of more in the...