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  1. sawdust

    Do stillborns and deceased babies go to 'hell'

    No, they did not commit any sin, they inherited a sin nature from their parents going all the way back to Adam. Everyone is to be evaluated/judged on their works. A baby has no works to be judged. For believers: 2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that...
  2. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    The irony is, the only way I can take note is to be alive in Christ in the first place. If I were not saved, most of God's word would go straight over my head. (1Cor.2:14) :)
  3. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Again telling me what I can and can't do when it really means I'm not being like you. Here's some news you may have missed. I have no intention of being like you, I desire and my only desire, is to be like Christ. I am reading the text correctly as I have learned from one who knows the Greek...
  4. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    What are you talking about? These people never lost their salvation, they never had salvation to begin with. :confused: Those who never get on the right train, never head in the right direction. False assurance doesn't guarantee salvation anymore than your belief salvation can be lost...
  5. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    No, you're thinking I'm saying that because you can't see past your own thinking. It has gone over your head the times I spoke of our responsibility to walk by means of grace, in the truth with the filling of the Holy Spirit and what happens if you don't walk according to God's plan.
  6. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Again with the personal assumptions. What's more, that statement really means "you don't think as I do". Yes, and our salvation is maintained by grace not your legalistic approach to staying alive. How long do you think the everlasting life we have been given actually lasts? It seems not very...
  7. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    I'm not sure I am reading you right. If you think we can lose our salvation then read the next paragraph. If you're don't think we can lose our salvation then you can stop reading here and ignore the next bit. :) Saved again? You are essentially saying Christ, who died for our sin, wasn't...
  8. sawdust

    Do stillborns and deceased babies go to 'hell'

    I would have said an emphatic no to that once but I foster for the local animal shelter and they gave me Monte to look after. He won my heart like few cats can. If I was in a better position for long term care, I would have adopted him. :love: So, in answer to your question, there are some good...
  9. sawdust

    Do stillborns and deceased babies go to 'hell'

    They died physically just as you will does that mean you're ungodly? The truth is you have no idea of the state of their soul and we only have you're word you are a believer so maybe you're real purpose for being here is to condemn/confuse others? John 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the...
  10. sawdust

    Do stillborns and deceased babies go to 'hell'

    Babies are innocent of any personal sin. They have inherited Adam's sin as we all have and are guilty by association only which is why they have died as babies. Judgment is not on the basis of association but on the basis of individual response to Christ therefore to judge them on the basis of...
  11. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    I've been giving my arguments, just not with you. You confuse the salvation we are given at the time we believe in the Gospel which cannot be lost and the salvation more commonly known as sanctification. The only thing some believers produce is rubbish to be burned (1Cor.3:12; Heb.6:8) It is...
  12. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Again, rubbish. You have not understood what has been said if you think that.
  13. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    This has to be one of the saddest things a Christian can say. How can we have any assurance if our salvation depends on us? How do you boldly go before the throne of God if you are not even sure you are saved and belong to Him? I want to weep from the depths of my soul for such insecurity in...
  14. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Yes, fallen from grace, not died and become unsaved once again. Grace is God's power to achieve His will in a fallen world, given freely based on His character of love. We walk by means of God's grace because the godly life we have been given cannot be achieved in our own power. Even...
  15. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    ROFL You're the one who refuses to consider context or language like my post of #384. I noticed you had nothing to say except give another verse that appears to say what you want while failing to recognise the language of that verse is speaking of the unsaved. Those who continually practice sin...
  16. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Give us a break. It has everything to do with what you think because you think the Bible teaches you can lose your salvation. The implication of your statement is only you know what it is really teaching and I don't. Show you scripture? The very Romans 8 scriptures you quote show God has made...
  17. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Rubbish and what happened to your policy of not getting personal? And those who practice (continuously as per the language) are they believers? Only believers cannot lose what God has given them, unbelievers never had the gift of salvation to begin with. You judge on appearance, not the word...
  18. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    We can agree on that. :) Your verses in context. Gal.6:8 says the corruption comes from the flesh, not the eternal flame. Not surprisingly, the flesh is self-serving. Phil.1:28. Destruction is for the opponents (ie.unbelievers). Hardly surprising unbelievers will end up in the eternal flame...
  19. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Go next door and cause a ruckus. Have you destroyed their peace? Moses destroyed his opportunity to enter the promised land. If you can only see the lake of fire when you see the word "destroy", you will miss much. Jesus said He came to give life and give it abundantly. (Jn.10:10) The life He...
  20. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Don't be too hard on them, the Church in general hasn't been the best teacher over the millennia. The Church has been faithful in saying we should live right but not so great saying how we do that. It's hard finding a pastor who can teach the in depth details and mechanics of how we have faith...