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the circling stars are a stern rebuttal of flat earth.. .. but that requires a little bit of thought and some basic middle school geometry

for one thing i'll be hosting a little open-ended get together - please come by, bring a friend :)

all it can ever do is explain how, never what, & absolutely never why and since QM now we know for sure it can only ever at best explain approximately how :LOL: if we read our Bibles we didn't need to wait for the 1900's to learn that, ha

laughing at how i just caught this had autocorrected to 'egocentric orbit' :ROFL::ROFL:

totally agree with all that!!

i've had several orbital dynamics and an entire college's astrophysics catalogue of classes. the helix has time as it's third axis. the thing with the pre-Newtonian geocentric orbit models is that it requires that helix to shrink and expand in an irregular way, and to have an infinite number of...

i know the tradition of the rabbis is that the rock in the holy of holies is the focal point of creation ;)

a sizable local gravity well!

Hubble's premise, which is supported here, is that we would see the same shift, and ((down the line, the premise of inflation hypothesis)), we would see roughly the same CMB from any vantage point, normalized by distance. this is supported by this data, but potentially also by us being very...

we haven't thrown away the Hubble equation: we adjusted the estimation of the Hubble constant with better empirical data. this still shows 96.5% uniform expansion of space itself, and near perfect flatness - indicating no center ((i.e. without evidence of any kind of hot, compressed wave front...

one thing i've understood about the differences between the eastern and the western church is that the east is fine with the existence of mysteries, in fact reacts to it with awe and reverence - while the west just tries to explain it all and winds up with a thousand wrong views. :LOL:

the Psalmist says when he thinks about the heavens, it makes him wonder what in the world mankind is, that God bothers to stoop down and notice us? frankly if mankind is the center of the universe and all of the universe is so obviously created for our benefit, revolving around us and our...

i disagree that's necessarily what the Bible describes.. the first description of the earth, actually, is that it is a formless, void thing with complex waters and spirit surrounding it, not an ideal geometry in the middle of nothingness. ... and even there the word earth means the same thing...

been since i was a kid, so hazy memory, but i did really enjoy those :)

the Bible says "the heavens ((plural))" before it says "and the earth" no reason to believe that He created them void and empty, or to believe that the testimony of creation as we can understand it - which really seems to indicate the earth isn't the oldest or most central thing - is a...

cosmic background radiation, largely.

does nobody screen these calls?

fine, Kosmos then.

Just because it's possible to work out the necessary math so that when you walk to your kitchen, actually the entire universe moves around you while you stay perfectly still, until your refrigerator presents itself to you and a jar of pickles jumps into your hand, doesn't mean it has any...

in ten minutes i catalogued 40 in Genesis 1-4 alone, reading nkjv. my advice to you in order to grow in knowledge of God is to think and speak more of Christ and less of kjv.