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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Normally, I am in agreement with what you post, except for this one thing. I believe the scriptures teach that if a person believes that there is a spiritual God, and worships him, they are born again, even though they do not believe Jesus is their Savour. I may be misinterpreting you...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Their are two types of people in this world. The natural people that have not been born again of the Spirit (1 Cor 2:14), who cannot discern the things of the Spirit, thinking them to be foolishness, and those people who Christ died for, and are born again, which are the ones that his Father...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    The scriptures in Ezekiel harmonize with the scriptures I posted in 5, 428. they are referencing spiritual Israel. First: The Father gave the elect to his Son to be a sacrifice to redeem them from their sins. Those that the Father gave to his Son is spiritual Israel, which is Jacob's surname...
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    Can the nonelect ever be born-again? (2 Kings 22:27) With the elect thou wilt be elect: and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.

    1. Luke 21 Jesus was preaching in the temple and said nation shall rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom and when you shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies then know that the desolation (of Jerusalem) therefore is nigh. 2. Luke 21:11, And great earthquakes shall be in divers...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    God's born again children (you and I) will, sometimes, be wicked and turn away from God and lust after the things of the world. When we do that, we temporary lose our fellowship with God, until we repent. James 1:14-15, But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Sorry, ask again, and I will be happy to give you an answer.
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    The scriptures that I have just posted to you says God gave his Son those that he wanted him to save eternally. (John 6:37-39). There are many more scriptures that refer to God giving people to his Son (Heb 2:13) (John 10:29) (John 17:9) John 17:11) (John 17:24)
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    That scripture I believe as truth, but the natural man, before he has been born again spiritually, will not ask a spiritual God anything (1 Cor 2:14)
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Jesus did not die to redeem all mankind from their sins. He only died for those that his Father gave him and he said that he would not lose any of them, but would raise them up at the last day (John 6: 37-39) Jesus's sacrifice was to God, for God's acceptance, and not to mankind for their...
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    Can the nonelect ever be born-again? (2 Kings 22:27) With the elect thou wilt be elect: and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.

    Are you saying that the destruction of Jerusalem, and the temple, by the Roman Empire is still in the future?
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    The rest, as referenced in this scripture, is tot referring to eternal rest, but a rest here on earth for those who believe. This also is referenced in Matt 7:14.
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Sorry, I cannot follow your line of thinking without some scripture references.
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    Can the nonelect ever be born-again? (2 Kings 22:27) With the elect thou wilt be elect: and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.

    These scriptures are referencing the destruction of Jerusalem, by the Roman empire, and the generation at that time will not pass till all these thing be fulfilled (Matt 24:34) (Mark 13:30) (Luke 21:32).
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Give me a scripture that says Adam and Eve were predestined to hell. God did not predestine anyone to hell. The ones that are going to hell choose that by their actions.
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    You are taking Matt 18:10 out of context. The little ones in verse 10 has reference to the little ones that believe in Jesus (Matt 18:6) not all little ones.
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    Can the nonelect ever be born-again? (2 Kings 22:27) With the elect thou wilt be elect: and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.

    Scripture please. Jacob, whose name God changed to be called Israel is spiritual Israel (Rom 9:6-16)