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Paul quoted Isaiah 28:11 as a prophesy about the speaking in tongues that the Corinthians were doing and of course that it would be a sign to the unbeliever in the sense that the unbelievers who encounter this phenomenon and their persistence in unbelief would come back to haunt them in the day...

As I understand it the question about what these syllables mean in the original manuscripts has been perplexing scholars long before the KJV scholars were born. I don't think that Isaiah was speaking in tongues. (but what if he was? Wouldn't that be interesting?) He was probably writing the...

If all we had was Acts 2 it would be one thing. But we are given a richly detailed look at how speaking in tongues with the Holy Spirit Gift of interpretation was being used in the churches to edify. If it was known tongues it would be fairly easy to identify them and find a bilingual...

I won't keep repeating myself. You can look at what I have posted in this thread. People hearing in their own language only happened once. Same with the tongues of flame. The other cases no one understood. Paul said only someone with the Holy Spirit gift of interpretation of tongues could...

ṣaw lāṣāw ṣaw lāṣāw qaw lāqāw qaw lāqāw zeʿêr šām zeʿêr šām If he was mimicking the sound of the Assyrian language without intending for them to be real words but just sounds, like when one mimics the Chinese language then he is in effect giving an example of gibberish. It is probably going...

Except for the others that were mocking them saying they must be drunk because they thought they were speaking gibberish. There were at least some that did not understand, and did not even recognize it as coherent speech in any language thus they concluded drunkenness must be the reason for the...

I read through this and what I got from it is that the history of Rabbinical interpreters has been as usual, inventing their own ideas because they couldn't make sense of the words either. They just did what they had a habit of doing and making up their own interpretations that supported what...

Thanks for the link. It is very interesting. I will be studying this deeper. I just discovered it. Two things that stand out to me and greatly encourage me. 1) I always felt a check that the way people were teaching "line upon line, precept upon precept" for bible study was not what...

11 So, the Lord will speak to his people in strange sounds and foreign languages.+ 12He promised you perfect peace and rest, but you refused to listen. 13Now his message to you will be senseless sound after senseless sound.+ (CSB) What many English translations say is something like "line...

It might be hijacking the thread or it might not be but here is something else I read. Many commentators have been puzzled by v. 10 and have wrestled to make sense of the Hebrew. The truth seems to be, as the NIV margin suggests, that it is not meant to make sense. Isaiah’s words have hardly...

Wow. This is interesting. ṣaw lāṣāw ṣaw lāṣāw qaw lāqāw qaw lāqāw zeʿêr šām zeʿêr šām That is what they have translated as line upon line, precept upon precept. But it does not appear to mean that. This is going to take time to digest.

A couple of commentaries from my collection: 9ff. The Hebrew of Do and do and rule on rule is, respectively, ṣāw and qāw. The former may occur in Hosea 5:11 (see the RV and cf. the NIV) but is an obviously possible noun formation meaning ‘command’. The latter is well established as ‘line’ (1...

Maybe, you could be right. But I have a feeling that there is some background information needed. That Isaiah was talking about something other than the way one does bible study. Like maybe he was talking about something that was understood by the readers at the time but we need a point of...

When you say "line upon line" what do you mean by that? Do you mean reading lines of text and learning truths and building on that as you learn more truths until you have the whole idea that scriptures reveal on a theme? But what did Isaiah mean when he said that? I am not sure if that was...

It's because there are certain root issues that the teachings appeal too. And there are certain personality types that are drawn to them. A felt need is being met, (so they think). But it is an illusion. They promise them liberty but they bring them into bondage. They take them backwards in...

Or Iesous in the Greek manuscripts, but I agree with your point. The English speaking world knows Him as Jesus as well as much of the non English speaking world and that is the best word to use because it communicates better. These new groups springing up daily trying to insist on...

I don't want to start an argument but I am not sure people are using "precept upon precept, line upon line" the way the author intended when we use it as a positive method for bible study. Wasn't he talking about a judgment in that context? Maybe we need to reassess how preachers have been...

By discovering what the author intended when he wrote it. (hermeneutics)

3“Ananias,” Peter asked, “why has Satan filled your hearta to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the proceeds of the land? 4Wasn’t it yours while you possessed it? And after it was sold, wasn’t it at your disposal? Why is it that you planned this thing in your heart? You have not lied...

Do you mean that God taught Moses ancient Hebrew? They (linguists and archaeologists) think that the first phonetic alphabet was behind the Hebrew language and in a sense one can see the Hand of God behind this development providently happening about the time Moses wrote. Moses being raised in...