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  1. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    Well, yes, voting is pretty moot at this point, even a protest vote. What's prophesied to happen will happen no matter how one votes, even a vote in protest. But look at what's prophesied to happen: A one world government Christians thinking they can stop the one world government by voting...
  2. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    You have a point there, but not voting at all is considered apathy, not protest. And they're going to divide the vote between the two major parties like you pointed out anyway, so whether you vote third party or not at all the numbers will be the same. The real point is, we're not going to vote...
  3. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    You mean red hat, right?
  4. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    One side threatens communism (rme). The other side threatens peoples faith. Nah, I'm not voting for either. Especially when scripture prophesies IT WILL BE THIS WAY AND WE NEED TO PREPARE NOT STOP IT. Because you can't vote your way out from under prophesy.
  5. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    Then you're missing my point
  6. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    Unfortunately none of them do. My vote is to make a statement, not promote a choice. Because there is no good choice. Nor, according to scripture, should we expect one.
  7. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    Sadly, our entire electoral system is but a huge joke these days. But you're right. The fine against him is absurd, as is how media portrayed the bloodbath comment out of context. Frankly I think he's right about delinquent NATO partners. Pay up or get out. My argument against trump (and...
  8. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    If they are going to steal the election, then it doesn't matter how one votes. I do vote, for third party, not expecting them to win, but to register a vote that went to neither of the mainstream candidates.
  9. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    I think you just contradicted yourself. ?
  10. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    Too many Christians these days ARE looking for a political answer to a spiritual problem. Glad you're not. And rely not upon your own understanding. Nor on mine; but truth is only available to those who are willing to explore and question what they think they know. I wouldn't expect you to...
  11. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    You're the one who brought up fear. I'm just wondering why. I'm not fearful, because I have studied and understand scripture and have prepared as scripture tells us to. What concerns me are the scriptures that say many will NOT be prepared, and because they are not prepared they will turn away...
  12. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    Tell me, where did this fear come in?
  13. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    We are also told to be wise
  14. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    No, when did I make that argument? My argument is: The left deceives the world (which I usually don't talk about, because I don't believe I need to convince anyone here of that) The right deceives believers (which far too many don't see, because they are deceived into thinking the enemy of my...
  15. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    Or, more reason for all of us to be accountable
  16. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    Since I took my position from scripture, apparently God has a weak opinion of Christians too. Or maybe He realizes just how persuasive these deceptions will be. Mammon worship, cheating workers, immorality, self-idolatry, abandoning the poor sick and foreign, hating your enemy, and embracing...
  17. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    Jesus said that of those who are, many will turn away from him because they are deceived by false prophets
  18. JTB

    Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths

    The Bible does say we are all guilty
  19. JTB

    Do stillborns and deceased babies go to 'hell'

    OK, after much prayer, meditation, and procrastination, this is where I landed. Thank you for your input (and it is still welcome with this). And I will honor any credits requested. Is there an age of accountability to God? Deuteronomy 1:39 "Moreover your little ones and your children, who...