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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    I know that and you know that but some folks here do not believe "there's anything new for [them] to know" and to suggest "there's so much more to know is to admit you still don't know what the gospel has revealed". Instead of engaging in an edifying discussion concerning the body of Christ...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    :rolleyes: ... well, I'm sure you've read 1 Cor 12:12 – 26 where we are told about the one body in Christ (1 Cor 12:12-13) in which there are many members (1 Cor 12:14) and that God has set every member in the body as it has pleased Him (1 Cor 12:18) ... that no member of the body can say to...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    :rolleyes: ... so you know all the unsearchable riches of Christ? ... and you understand all of the ways of God? Ephesians 3:8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ Romans 11:33 O the...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    amen Ephesians 1:13 In whom [the Lord Jesus Christ] ye also, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise .
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    you can't find the post in this thread wherein anyone has stated we are saved because our of choice, so you deviate with your copy/paste. and fyi ... @Genez already submitted a post which indicates that arminianism and calvinism are both wrong. You would do well to study Scripture. 2 Timothy...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Well it is interesting to me that when John Calvin stated the problem with the church in Corinth was the same as what I pointed out to you several days ago, you settled down. However, you now tell me you follow the Lord Jesus Christ and I will take you at your word. I'll stick with what God...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Do you know the spirit of God dwells within you? 1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? .
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    so do you now agree that there was division in the church at Corinth because people were following men instead of following the Lord Jesus Christ? ... and, yes, the pastors and teachers in our churches are to point the congregation to the Lord Jesus Christ so you don't need to go on another rant...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    No ... I believe He places His seal on the born again one so he or she can know he or she belongs to Him ... not question ... not doubt ... know 1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? Holy Spirit within the born again one...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Please tell me the post number wherein it is stated that we are saved because of our choice. I have not seen anyone make that statement. That is why I told you that you were engaging in strawman fallacy. You are the only one who is saying that. We all agree that salvation is wholly of/by/from...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Have you ever read Jeremiah 36? great chapter illustrating how God provided Scripture to mankind ... .
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    :rolleyes: ... I merely submitted verses of Scripture from the New Living Translation of the Bible. Here are the same verses from the ERV: 1 Corinthians 1: 10 Now I beseech you, brethren, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Here is Thayer's Greek Lexicon definition of sphragizō as used in Ephesians 1:13: τινα τῷ πνεύματι and ἐν τῷ πνεύματι, respecting God, who by the gift of the Holy Spirit indicates who are his, passive, Ephesians 1:13 Below is from ISBE: God by His Spirit indicates who are His, as the owner...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    I do not agree. I believe the Holy Spirit continues to seal born again believers to this day. I didn't "cherry-pick" ... I provided several definitions from several sources. please provide your definition of sphragizo. thanks. .
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    it's your choice to follow your minister and ignore the plain words in Scripture. 1 Corinthians 1 [NLT]: 1 I appeal to you, dear brothers and sisters, by the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, to live in harmony with each other. Let there be no divisions in the church. Rather, be of one mind...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Ephesians 1:13-14 In whom [the Lord Jesus Christ] ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    :rolleyes: ... a simple "no, I did not read 1 Corinthians chapters 1 - 3" would have sufficed. .
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    The Lord Jesus Christ bought us. He paid the ransom. He laid His life down. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    I trust God to fulfill His promise. He redeemed me and He promises to keep me. I am a born again child of God and I do not believe there is any way to become "unborn". I may falter along the way, but that affects my day to day relationship with the Father ... it does not mean I am no longer His...