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Not as certain as you that the second death for a human is an eternity of torturous existence. I rather suspect God took away that option by not allowing eating from the tree that would have caused an eternal existence in a corrupted state. Concerning no rest day or night, I don't know but it...

It really is a mystery. Or as you put it earlier, intriguing! :)

Yes, I agree the rich man was alive in Hades. But I'm not certain he will be after the resurrection and judgement and second death. And I'm not certain all souls are imperishable.

I'm not certain we can compare satan being a spirit being to humans. Just because satan (a spirit being) appears to have eternal life/be imperishable somehow even apart from God, it does not follow (in my opinion) that souls/humans have this imperishableness within themselves apart from God...

Not sure if I can quite agree. Not fully anyway. It is a fight of faith, a race of trust in which we gain endurance by the things He brings to us, allows to come to us, and lets us suffer - to grow in that trust, to begin to trust Him more and more. I would say it guarantees spiritual failures...

This post is excellent. Just excellent. I want to say that if I could have read it years ago I'd have had an easier time with less struggle, but I probably wouldn't have understood it then.

Magenta, I cannot interpret tongues! :LOL:

https://binged.it/2Hj96RX

Yes, they only think they keep them. Once they understand that to have anger at your brother means you have already murdered, then they are seeing themselves correctly.

I am sad for those who don't have the...experience of hearing Him whisper to them at times: soon, soon. But I know great joy when He whispers this to me and am sad they can't relate to me on it or share in it. Not that they have no joy, I'm not saying that. And I think it's despicable when they...

It was a different fellow than ahwatukee who was making endtimes view a salvational issue.

Well...yeah, I do think there is a second death. I'm just not 100% positive that second death isn't a loss of eternal life (of ANY sort). If you live separated from God on earth and then die the first death, I think to die the second death may be to not live AT ALL. Otherwise, the second death...

okay thanks kind sir. Pm. :)

I was talking more about longstanding members. No indication that any of them were locked out?

Has anyone heard of anyone not being able to sign in once the new site came on?

I've struggled some with this. I am fairly firm-ish in what I think about it now but it did take some struggle and working through. I think there IS no eternal life for humans (but not sure I think this about satan) apart from Gods' Spirit in them. Eternal life is in the Son, not in the human...

I've gotta say, I at least have understood more finally by revisiting this topic again. I have once again come to some conclusions, but they are more informed and more worked out in my mind. Here is what I'm walking away with. First, I do believe in the manifestation of tongues (and I think...

But as Once pointed out, THEY can motor themselves out of danger like a tsunami warning, etc. This behemoth is only going to move if you tow it. I'm not sure I think the submarines and aircraft carriers are a good idea either, but at least they can move themselves along...

But shrume said only the one who is actually speaking in tongues can be the one to interpret...

Lol, I like a post many times even when I see it differently, simply because I appreciate the time someone is spending on me and the respectful way they are speaking with me!