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Read Matt. 24:31-46 and you will see that is not true!

OK, if the living are raptured and receive glorified bodies, and the dead are resurrected and receive resurrected bodies, at the same time, how does the earth repopulate during the 1000 yrs? Remember, only the saved are allowed into the 1000 yrs, as Matt. 25:31-46 says. So it seems to me you...

The resurrection of Rev. 20 is the resurrection of only the tribulation saints who were saved during the tribulation. The saints who have died in Christ before the tribulation were raptured in 1 Thes. 2 as Paul told us.

And it happens together before the tribulation begins!

Good grief, I have no response for this!

This means the dead in Christ will be given the privilege's of being risen and changed BEFORE the living in Christ are changed. It all happens in an instant.

So the resurrected saints come out of the grave, meet Jesus in the air just come back down with Him? No, I don't think so! I like my version better.

The gathering Paul spoke of was in the air, the gathering Jesus spoke of was on earth. Jesus is not seen at the gathering in air, it takes place in a moment, the twinkling of an eye. But every eye will see Him at the gathering on earth at the Second Coming. Jesus plainly said in Matt. 25 when...

It's certainly similar enough to recognize!

That is interesting!

I wonder if their 72 virgins were waiting for the suicide bombers in heaven?

Another brain cramp look at Post #5052

I'm sorry, another brain cramp, I have um quite often! I meant Abel!

Most certainly! That remnant began with Cain, as there is no proof from scripture that Adam and Eve ever repented. At the time of the flood, that remnant was saved through Noah. When God brought back the nation of Israel in 1948, He brought with it His remnant still present in Israel today...

OK, here's my summary on this. God has always had a remnant of Israel who believe in the Christ from the beginning of time to this very moment. The mystery that Paul revealed to us is that God has also chosen the Gentile (anyone who is not a Jew) for salvation. The vine illustration that Paul...

That is correct in my opinion! We become spiritual Israel, the spiritual seed of Abraham in Christ through faith! We Gentiles are the grafted vine into the natural vine.

There are 2 ways to look at this! The way your friend sees it and the way I see it. If we lay on the table what we believe and why we believe it, we all will see what the different beliefs are and why! Of course there will be arguing, just as Jesus argued with the Pharisees, the way Paul...

That is very true! They made a God of the Law of Moses. The Messiah was to fulfil what they had decided would take place, the whole time they were spiritually dead to the fact that they needed salvation just as the Gentiles. They were proud and blind to that fact.

The big surprise for Israel is coming! The warrior Messiah is coming at the Second Coming! Zechariah said, there will be great mourning in the land when they see the One whom they have pierced (Jesus). They will all see Him when He comes to save His chosen people (Israel) from the anti-christ...

There's no doubt the Jews were looking for the Messiah to come and reign of this earth. They were not looking for the suffering Lamb who would lay down His life for the sins of the world, they were looking for a warrior Messiah to deliver them from Rome. The whole problem for the Jews it that...