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why does it say sin "revived" instead of 'was born' or 'began' ?

wow, that's very interesting! i've never thought or heard of this as a place to debate ECT.. but it really fits; good point!

i find the concept of Adam being ignorant of God a bit weird. after all, if he really thought he could hide, why would he be afraid?

at least for a moment, something was more important to him than fear of death, so he sinned. not that fear of death is the only motivation, of course - but in the moment when he took the fruit and ate it, knowing the consequences, he certainly wasn't afraid to die. maybe he was more afraid of...

yes, but we know they understood it to exist, because God had warned them about it as a consequence. but i believe for sure they had never seen it - it entered the world through Adam, through his sin.

it's pretty amazing they did not eat of the Tree of Life. isn't that what you or i would try doing the moment we realized we had eaten poison? did Adam know better? God knew they must not, until the Redeemer would come, and make the way for us. He doesn't guard the Way out of spite or...

Adam, not being deceived, seems not to have feared death, at least before it was in him?

imagine what the tree looked like after they had stripped enough leaves from it to make two tunics - naked, right? and how long that took to do - occupying them, keeping them from doing something else, that God set angels to keep them from doing later

did they really think God couldn't see their sin if they had a fig leaf moomoo lol why do we think this makes sense? it doesn't. i suspect the tree was a fig tree :coffee:

well the Torah couples nakedness with shame. so it's natural we understand that they were ashamed and afraid. and this is the feeling also, when you know you have let someone down whom you love, and it is time to face them, and confess to it.

disappointing his Father?

he'd never needed to be forgiven before.. i wonder what he was afraid of? :unsure:

i notice it says The Word of God is able to give us this wisdom, rather than it being already inherent in our nature, and that it is implicit we need salvation.

Adam answered when God called Him, but before God called him, he was ashamed and afraid, hearing the sound of Him walking in the garden.

i was under the impression you had quite a liberal definition of tree

sir, i am having a conversation about what you wrote, and about what the scriptures say. you don't have to be angry about it.

doesn't the Torah condemn a man on the testimony of two or three witnesses - who are also men? i don't think it is that they were blaspheming by saying a man was a sinner - they were blaspheming because they knew Jesus Christ was the Messiah, and they were willfully rejecting Him. they...

so Abraham had whereof to boast, but not before God.. ;)

you're really missing out. pineapple is delicious!

well the context is that the pharisees said "we know this man is a sinner" and you said that by doing so they presumptuously stood in the place of God. i really don't think i have misrepresented your statement, even if i have zeroed in on it. but i am not sure that is correct - do we disabuse...