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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    i think - and this is an opinion - it was more about not leaving her to die alone and less about him thinking he could save her through sin. as though he loved her more than God, in that decision, which is something Christ talks about, you know? to be worthy of Him we must love Him more. Jesus...
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    It's not assumed Adam is a type of Christ, or that he was undecieved, or that what he did, he did because he listened to his wife, and because God had given her to him, and she had eaten - the Bible explicitly says so. did he think he could save her? by dying with her? i doubt it. maybe he...
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    Ahem Luke 3:38 ... the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    Adam, the person, is specifically called a type of Christ: Romans 5:14-15 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. But the free gift [is] not like the offense...
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    it's probably more accurate to say Woman fell, then Adam dove in after her. he wasn't deceived - he willingly and knowingly chose to sin, as God put it, listening to the voice of his wife. Adam is a foreshadow of Christ; Romans 5:13 tells us this explicitly, and part of that type is that Adam...
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    Huh? do you think the serpent was not actually speaking? that Woman was just hallucinating? or lying about what had happened? do you think it was the LORD deceiving her?
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    it isn't the hearing lol. why was Adam afraid?
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    Yes, so with Adam, there is an implication that this was a regular time and place that he met with God. where was he? not with God, as he should be. and with Cain - where is your brother? Cain is being inquired of about the first physically dead human, an human who had God's approval. Abel's...
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    Yes So when God asks Adam "where are you?" and Cain, "where is your brother Abel?" - - this is not because God doesn't know, but because those hearing the question need to think about the answer! the spirit of Adam had become separated from God, as had Cains, and the spirit of Abel had...
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    Haha! no, i only meant that a view of "death" which only means the separation of the spirit from the body, that is physical death, is the equivalent of the atheist, materialist understanding of death. that thereis physical and spiritual death - that the Bible while yes, speaks of physical...
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    I don't believe @UnoiAmarah is a Satanist lol He holds some views about Genesis 3 that are actually very commonly taught in the church, though they cannot be correct; they fall apart quickly when examined. And he also holds some very unorthodox views about the identity of the trees and the...
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    Ephesians 2:4-5 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved) Colossians 3:3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. iif a person finds...
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    the phrase in Hebrew is literally "dying, you shall die" not "you will surely die" - the latter is an interpretive approximation, not the actual translation. it implies death enters through sin and begins a process of taking over the whole person. the dying is immediate: the eventual state of...
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    not at all. you just need God's definition of death, instead of a merely atheistic, human one. were you dead when Christ saved you? if you are in Christ, have you died now? what does scripture say?
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    it doesn't say they were created to keep that way. it says two of them were set there.
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    it doesn't mention the creation of angels, but we know from Job the angels already existed, and from Hebrews and other places they are created beings. only God is uncreated and He made all things. so Genesis 1-3 is not an account of everything that exists - it is the generation of Adam, how...
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    we know from Job 38:7 the angels predate the creation of the world. they watched God do these things and rejoiced Christ saw Satan fall to the ground like lightning. when did this occur? after he was already on the ground, when he murdered Woman? i believe he fell in Genesis 1:1 - and that...
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    The tree of knowledge of good and evil

    Remember that the angels saw all those things happen, that they had seen Satan corrupt himself and deceive 1/3 of the angels, and then saw God create a world full of biological life capable of reproduction, and plant the garden, then create Adam and a wife for him. and then the angels saw what...
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    Was it tree or cross ?

    The same Hebrew word for tree in Deuteronomy 21:23 is also in other places translated as handle, stalk, carpenter and gallows. The Greek word in Galatians 3:13 can mean anything made of wood.