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And I would bet you dollars to donuts that detractors "of TULIP out there think their verses justify their warped beliefs", as well.

What I highlighted above speaks to God's benevolence or beneficent love that dispenses common grace for the benefit and preservation of mankind. After all, how could God save such a large number of elect from this world if he didn't preserve his world by his power every single moment of every...

Since the whole world of UNBELIEVERS hate Christ, then you need to explain how did this world transform its own nature and change its own heart to love him and believe in Him? Did the world of unbelievers give themselves a new heart? Did they circumcise their own hearts? Did they instill the...

And that "certain part of the world at the time" would have been Israel who never considered herself to be part of the [pagan, non-elect, unclean, uncircumcised] nations, i.e. the world. (Israel was rescued from such a godless nation by Moses, remember? And the Israelites DROVE out God's...

The pitfalls to FWT are so numerous, I barely know where to begin. But here's another one that shows just how duplicitous and hypocritical they are! We all know that any self-respecting, card-carrying, man-loving, man-exalting FWer believes that Jn 3:16 teaches that God loves all men w/o...

Did God give "the ability" to the fallen angels "to call upon his name"? And how would God be unjust by giving sinners what they deserve? What have sinners ever given to God that He should repay them (Rom 11:35)? You talk as though God owes it to everyone to give them a new heart and...

Hah...I see. Your god only works "lovingly through" those who seek him. But not so much through dead, helpless, powerless people who naturally hate him. I'll stick with the God of the bible, as he is just as righteous, and loving and merciful and compassionate as the Good Samaritan. Your...

Mr. Wanna-be Scholar sir...have you never read that "you reap what you sow"? Or if you don't like that then there's always Prov 26:4-5 upon which to meditate.

Hmmm...without doubt the FWs must think that when God sovereignly works his will into his people that means He's forcing himself upon us. Maybe Paul forgot to add that God only works his will into his saints only if they have his permission... :rolleyes:

Oh...you want a "scholarly response"? Why didn't you say so? :rolleyes: The Body of Christ does not consist of multiple levels of believers. Every single believer is called and expected to serve their Lord and Savior. Every single believer has been given a gift to use in SERVICE to their...

Then everyone is saved, just like Eve was saved. I know you desperately want to have it both ways here: You want everyone to believe that he reconciled all men w/o exception, but then when an unbeliever says..."Well then...I'm good to go since God saved me and I didn't even know about it."...

And the "abnormal" believer is completely committed to what precisely? And what are the "3 types of people" discussed in 1Cor 2-3? Are all these types also unbelievers or is it a mixed bag?

There are two kinds of people in the world: Those in the flesh who CANNOT please God and those in the Spirit who can. So...is your "normal" unbeliever someone who fits in between these two different kinds of people? :rolleyes:

What "challenge" would that be: That God actually elects/chooses only a tiny percentage of the Church that he has specifically called to "serve" him? Make things up much?

Excellent passage! And since Christ is believed in throughout the world, this can only mean that all men w/o distinction believe in Him.

Studier so loves his god Volition that he doesn't care a whit in calling the one and only True Living God a liar!

Define "normal unbeliever"! Would that be someone like those described in Isa 1:5-6 or in Jer 13:23? Or do "normal" unbelievers have stuff going on within them that "abnormal" unbelievers don't, e.g. some intrinsic goodness (Mk 10:18; Rom 7:18) that the bible says NO ONE has!?

That's not saying very much since serving the Living God is what it means to be in an actual saving, personal, intimate, loving covenant relationship with Him. God didn't save anyone to not serve him! Everyone in this world serves someone or something! Therefore, if God never purposed for...

So...in your world, grass, leaves and animals are sinners? :rolleyes: I take it that you're alluding to 2Cor 5:19? 2 Cor 5:19 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. NIV...

Again, under what covenant did He do that? You still can't point to that mythical covenant, can you? And it certainly can't be the New Covenant since the New Covenant was not made with all men w/o exception. It was made with Abraham's descendants. And here again, you can't get your phony...