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the natural man is before the quickening or the drawing of the Lord this is the natural sinful state of man who loves their sinful ways the spiritual at least in the state before salvation is the quickening or when he calls or draws us to him this is the state when we are not saved yet but we...

there is no point the issue is that many do hear the gospel being preached but there is a difference between hearing and listening it just falls on deaf ears and thus no comprehension though to hear the gospel being preached he first needs to draw us to him after that the choice of...

well that is true I cannot argue that point, I suppose it depends on what one considers to hear is but your right about that

and honestly when it comes down to it we ought to go by what esus said we can debate all day but esus said that only through faith in him can we be saved Because that is the issue that some have and believe, especially when it comes to selected salvation

yes the key word being direct but note the walking part we walk he directs walking is an active decision to do so after all your brain tells your feet to move he doesn't just walk for you. to direct is to lead or give direction in which way to go that doesn't mean you don't have the ability to...

Several scriptures emphasize the importance of surrendering to be saved, including Luke 9:23-24, which states that those who deny themselves and follow Jesus will save their lives, and Matthew 10:37, which says that those who love God more than family are worthy of him both of these things...

very well put I like how you put how Jesus restored the freedom to choose

oh I see it has more than one meaning, well then in this conctext it would be recieving salvation correct?

you get a desire to be saved a desire to know God this is him drawing us to him unless I am mistaken isn't that what being quickened is?

in our natural state it requires he draws us to him first but to say that there is not choice at all would make us robots. when I was saved I could tell you all the basics of slavation but even then I knew I wasn't saved it wasn't until I surrendered my life to him to him that I was saved that...

He does quicken us first yes otherwise in our sinful nature we never would choose him I think maybe I misunderstood

that sounds amazing and there was an interpreter to hear it so it lines up as well

yes he draws us but it also said this If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved it says if you key word you. you can put together lots of random scriptures but it only takes one to show that we have a choice...

maybe it was for her and God was just using you to speak to her?

I don't know what they are called but there are those who subscribe to the theology of no free will and selected salvation aka election, trying to convince them is nearly impossible if possible at all and all you have posted more than proves otherwise but they will not hear of it

that and a lot of new age so called holy spirit actions like holy laughter and falling down over each other as if your having a seizure

thank you for your responce it was very enlightening the few times I have encountered actual tongues not random babbling it was in the form of prayer and worship not really a message but boy is there power in it unlike anything I ever felt before It is to bad I don't speak in tongues with what I...

the late 1800's is also when a major world rervival occured so that may be why the idea was brought back but as far as basing your understanding on what others say becareful with that because what if they are wrong what do the scriptures say?

yes I have heard that interpretation before about the completeness of the scriptures meaning tongues cease except that it isn't what it says nowhere does it say the completeness is the completeness of the scriptures that is just an added interpretation the completeness never mentions that.

amazing testimony, I will say that the enemy does indeed mimic the gift I have known witches that do that but the fake tongues I encountered mainly were people just trying to speak the gift but didn't have it just empty words. however I know it is real because firstly I believe in ALL of the...