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There is nothing in scriptures that indicate to me that they see us.. Unless someone can bring forth scripture stating they do??

There may be a few different types of Premillennialism.. Like a person who believe in the 1000 year reign of Jesus with His saints on earth does not nessecaraly believe in the pre-tribulation rapture.. So i guess one has to discuss each individuel aspect as a seperate topic to have a good...

I would ask to have a talk with the Apostle Paul.. I would have to make sure i had my Bible with me too,, :giggle:

Sorry i am late with this reply Believer08 My computer died and i had to go through all the troubles of getting a new one and setting it all up.. o_O Hope you are still visiting CC and will read this reply of mine.. GBU Well since i believe that there are many false preachers and churches...

Ok whats your definition of religous OCD ?

A church must be in alignment with the Word of God for me before i would ever consider joining it.. That is by far and away the most critical criteria in ones decision..

And that's the main reason why you want to get the questioner to define what they believe Open Theism is.. That way you can then start responding to and dealing with their particular definition.. If other people want to introduce other definitions of Open Theism then they are free to do so...

Yep this point is a good one.. (y)

Correct. Where does it say in that scripture that they did not understand the Love of the Truth.. It says did not recieve it.. As Jesus said some people believe the Gospel is evil a deception, They look upon it as Heracy.. They believe that Jesus suffering for the sins of others is an...

We become Spiritual men because of the work of the Holy Spirit upon us.. We are not spiritual men before the Holy Spirit starts working on us.. As if one person is born as a spiritual person predestined to accept the will of God and another person is born a carnal person predestined to reject...

Again the examples / analogies i gave where demonstrations of one having free will.. And are related to the free will we have to either accept or resist the moving of the Holy Spirit.. They are related and that's why i used them in my posts..

Yes we have been enabled by the Holy Spirit to be able to make the choice of salvlation.. And we have made the right choice sister :giggle:

My replies have focused on delivering the thoughts that i have as clearly as i can and opposing those doctrines that i believe are wrong.. It has NEVER been a personal attack on anyone involved in this thread.. I have absolutely no ill intent or feelings towards you or anyone else i respond to...

Of course salvation is a gift.. and the actual working/moving of the Holy Spirit is a gif of love.. But in the end i can offer a person a gift but to have the gift They need to actually accept the gift.. God does not shove the gift into a persons hands and forcing them to hold on to it.. He...

I was using those points as examples / as analogies to HELP others to come to understand that we do have free will.. of course i know what the theological ramifications of the free will debate within Christianity is.. That being that if the calvinist there is no free will is correct.. Then NO...

If that where the case i would not have bothered responding to your posts / your thoughts.. My objective is two sided.. Firstly To Help you.. And secondly to take a stand against false doctrine.. Now if you want to reject my attempts to help you and you are confident in your POV over you not...

Yes salvation is by Grace alone.. Amen.. But salvation by grace alone does not mean we have no free will..

I am only dealing with the Original topic of the Thread which was the existence or non existence of Free Will and if Humans have Free will or not.. And the last few posts i have posted is dealing with the correct Definition of what Free will in human beings actually is.. I know there have been...

Well make the free willed choice not to be facetious then.. Unless you think you have no free will and you therefore could not do anything other then make that choice which wasn't a real choice because since you believe we have no free will then you believe you have no control over what...

Your wrong.. Simply wrong.. If i get thirsty and decide i will get a can of soft drink / pop from the fridge to drink and then open the fridge and there are no soft drinks cans in the fridge i cannot fulfill the choice that i made.. But i still made the free willed choice to go to the fridge...