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    Obedient Woman

    Those threads are rare to nonexistent.
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    Obedient Woman

    I understand. We may not agree on every point, and that is okay. So much of what we think about gender roles is socially constructed rather than emphatically stated in scripture, so I am always searching the scripture to see if what we are being told about gender roles is true. This is what the...
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    Obedient Woman

    You said, "Laws guaranteed concubines rights like other wives." Hagar did not have the same rights as Sarah. After Abraham died, Isaac got everything, and Ishmael (the eldest son) only got a gift. Gen 25:5-6 CONCUBINE, n. L., to lie together, to lie down. 1. A woman who cohabits with a man...
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    Obedient Woman

    You asked if I think a husband's duty to give himself up for his wife is heavy? Absolutely. However, like Agape love, giving yourself up (dying) for your spouse is also a mutual responsibility in marriage. Wives are not exempt. Christians are instructed to die for each other in the following...
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    Obedient Woman

    I learned something new. I don't think that I have ever read or paid attention to that verse before. Marriage in the Old Testament was so convoluted. There were covenant wives, concubines (sex slaves) and brides taken during war. I think Eph 5 is a attempt to restore marriage to what God created...
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    Obedient Woman

    I don't think most couples throughout world history have or will experience the mystery of Christ and the church in their marriages. The holy women of the past submitted to their own husbands. 1 Pet 3:5 However, there is no verse telling us that the holy men of old loved their wives. That...
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    Obedient Woman

    It's always odd to me when someone says that men have a heavier responsibility in marriage. As if Christian wives are exempt from Agape loving their husbands. Christians wives are instructed to Agape love their husbands in the following verses: Agape love your neighbor as yourself. Matt 22:39...
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    Vaccine is killing more people than covid

    I contemplated responding to LuvofChrist's inflammatory and biblically misinformed comments about women. God took care of it. I see that he has been banned.
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    I like Cece Winans, been my favourite in gospel ever since my atheist days

    My favorite Cece Winans song is Alabaster Box.
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    What makes a "Good Christian"?

    I agree. The church does not really adddress the issue of believers being unequally yoked (incompatible) with other believers. Do not become unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? 2 Cor 6:14...
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    What do you hope your legacy will be?

    My grandmother was a LPN during the 1950s and 60s. She was also a midwife. She delivered babies for poor families in the community who couldn't afford to see a doctor. Needy and under-resourced people in the neighborhood could come to my grandmother for a meal or clothes, and she would help...
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    What do you hope your legacy will be?

    As someone who has read and appreciated many of your thoughtful posts, I find this hard to imagine. I wonder about all the ways that you may be building a legacy that you don't realize. I wonder what those in your circle, those who know you best, might say. Oh, to be a fly on the wall...
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    What do you hope your legacy will be?

    The older I get, the more I think about the kind of legacy I want to build and leave behind. What is a legacy? How is it defined? In law, a legacy is something that someone gets by inheritance, or by a will. In historical terms, a legacy is something that is handed down from one period of time...
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    Streams of Consciousness & Thoughts~~~

    I'm in a doodling and coloring mood.
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    Men can you tell if another man is good-looking?

    This is interesting. I was surprised that the guys unanimously ranked the shortest guy as # 1. I wasn't expecting that. hmmmm
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    Is it Biblically permissive to beat one's wife?

    Surfer14 said, "Women will be slapped among other things." That's hard truth in a sinful world. However, men will also be slapped. Jael greeted, hid, gave him drink and made Sisera feel so comfortable in her tent that he feel asleep. Then, she slapped in the head with peg and hammer and...
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    Is it Biblically permissive to beat one's wife?

    Yeah. I don't think these types of men are ignorant (don't understand) the hurt they cause women in these situations. I strongly believe that men like this don't care about the hurt they cause women in these situations.
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    Is it Biblically permissive to beat one's wife?

    What bible verse says that a man should slap his wife? Just curious
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    Is it Biblically permissive to beat one's wife?

    The Bible says that husbands should … - Leave their mother and father and be united with their wives. Ephesians 5:31 -LOVE wives like Christ loved the church. Eph 5:25 - DIE for their wives. Eph 5:25 - NOURISH and CHERISH their wives. Eph 5:29 - should not be harsh with their wives. Col 3:19 -...
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    divorce, remarrriage and separation- Bibically?

    I've never thought about that aspect of it. Good thinking. Thank you for making that correlation and sharing it.