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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    But he did baptize some. It just wasn't his primary calling.
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    No. I don't think anything has been put on hold. And I don't think Paul was told NOT to baptize. It just wasn't his primary calling.
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    I don't think that is correct. People make way to much out of Paul's statement that he was not sent by God to baptize, but to preach the gospel. Note these references. Acts 19:3-6 So Paul asked, “Then what baptism did you receive?” “John’s baptism,” they replied. 4 Paul said, “John’s...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    In addition to the connection made with the global flood, the connection is also made to the crossing of the Red Sea. And the Israelites are said to be "baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea." - vs 2 1 Corinthians 10:1-2 For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    Even more on this. So, it seems that in scripture there is both a separation and a connection between baptism and ceremonial washing. The same Greek word is used to describe both. Yet in the English translation the one is called baptism and the other washing. Even for something as mundane as...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    More on this subject. This scripture connects baptism to washing, using the global flood as an example. Noah's family = saved through water, which "symbolizes baptism that now saves you also..." - vs 21 Baptism defined as "... not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    We are making a more solid case now. Here are two more scriptures under that 909 Strong's number. The Greek word is baptismois. (as in your definition above) It is translated to English as "washing". Mark 7:4 When they come from the marketplace they do not eat unless they wash. And they...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    The Greek text uses the word baptizo. If it also used that word in reference to ceremonial washings, then we would have something. I did a quick scan of the related verses and found something significant. See below. The Pharisees expected Messiah to baptize. Say what? John 1:24-27 Now the...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    It seems that we can't call it "the Jewish ritual or custom of baptism", since there is no such thing. Maybe "ceremonial bathing/washing"? I'm not sure what to call it either. But it was not called baptism to my knowledge. (which is limited, I know)
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    Do you believe there is salvation in infant baptism?
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    The definition gives some insight. baptizo - 907 bap-tid'-zo from a derivative of baptw - bapto 911; to immerse, submerge; to make whelmed (i.e. fully wet); used only (in the New Testament) of ceremonial ablution, especially (technically) of the ordinance of Christian baptism:--Baptist...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    That's helpful, thanks. A pool for ceremonial cleansing and purification for a convert to Judaism. A baptism of sorts. Still a curiosity that the word baptism was used if the two are closely related.
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    Nope. Is that Oy's little sister? Like Mik Veh and Oy Veh? lol
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    I still don't see the connection. A ceremonial washing is never called a baptism, and baptism is never called a ceremonial washing. How can they be one and the same?
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    I heard some discussion earlier about Paul not baptizing. I think some are drawing the wrong conclusion there. Reading the context will help. 1 Corinthians 1:13-17 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I did not baptize any...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    Right. Baptism, after all, is only a ceremony. A ceremony is an outward demonstration of an inward reality. Which is the important part?
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    That brings up an interesting point. If baptism (ceremonial washing) was a part of the law, as some claim, then it would have been nailed to the cross with the rest of the law.
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    If that is the case, I would say we are ALL in big trouble. Matthew 10:8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    That's good. Thanks. Baptism has become rather disconnected from the conversion "event", as you put it. Nowadays we do baptisms on occasion. We schedule a baptism class, to make sure everyone understands what we are doing and to give others a chance to catch this boat. It could be a long time...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    Would you go so far as to say that a believer that has not been baptized is not saved? There has been a lot of back and forth on this topic about the value or effect of baptism. From my perspective, baptism is a ceremony. A ceremony is an outward demonstration of an inward reality...