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And to press his point further, Paul goes on to say: 1 Corinthians 14 18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. 19 But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.

The older I get, the more inclined I am to reserve my pity for those most deserving of it. I'm going to make an exception in your case.

I can leap tall buildings in a single bound. Prove that I can't ? The unbelieving Jews during the time of Christ sought proof of who Jesus was .. and He provided that proof over and over again. You demanding that others prove contrarily is backwards. The onus of proof is on you and others...

Or, as in this case, a bunch of very unhappy tongue practitioners. Maybe his mistake was not assuring them of their salvation nonetheless ... like you did. The Catholics must feel cheated by you Roger.

Read it again. What else needs to be said to convince you ?

Your profile is "no longer accessible" so I'm assuming that it's just a waiting game now for your certain banishment. That's unfortunate. There is nothing hidden that won't be laid bare. Each of us will give account. God bless if you soon disappear :)

I hope this holds true and not just for DJ2 but for all concerned. For what it's worth, I would never report a poster (or post) for a personal slam against me or something I happen to believe that goes contrary to their own. Tempers are bound to flare at times over controversial topics such as...

This is exactly what the apostle Paul was talking about in Corinthians. Too precious.

Duly noted.

That's a coincidence. I get the same understanding when someone like yourself speaks in tongues.

Take your own advice. The ban is in the mail.

I too can attest to something. You speaking gibberish is not biblical tongues. You and others like you present the wondrous works of the Holy Spirit to the world as nothing more than a clown show. And contrary to what some say here, it will be answered for.

For this, a person is banned ? Are there any moderators on this forum that aren't thin-skinned pentecostals ? I dearly hope that you aren't pastoring a flock somewhere.

Seems to me that those who don't hold a "tongues today" view have short life span here on CC. Is this the norm ?

This post makes me want to hug you :(

You do understand what you're praying for then .. in tongues ? Is it earthly languages as occurred at Pentecost or an angelic/heavenly language ? Surely you'd know given that you understand the language ?

Yet, you don't comprehend your prayers when you pray in tongues ? Irony can be a sad thing.

No .. these debates would not occur. Nothing was left to question during the apostolic era because the evidence bore witness to the truth. Even the unbelievers couldn't deny that the miraculous had occurred. Today, the claim is made that we don't see it because our faith is lacking. We...

On any forum where opposing views are discussed, who doesn't do this ? I understand the point DJ2 is making in regards to the illogical reasoning presented by those on other matters and suggesting that todays attempts to validate tongues do likewise. Deflection's present a weak defence.

Paul never taught of a heavenly or angelic language. 1 Corinthians 13 opens with Paul speaking hyperbole to make a point, that point being the meaninglessness of everything and anything in the absence of love. To say otherwise, one would also have to believe (and claim) that we can know all...