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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    Have you ever really found someone that has said that? Love is not contrary to Grace, I think the problem is what people are working for and some think they can work for there salvation, Work as hard as you want but what are you working for
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    That's nice, here is a mystery for you Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory "Christ in you" But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:In whom the god of this...
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    for some context who is it that over comes? he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God John 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide...
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    That's your confession of faith, you are saying you don't fully realize it and you don't know, and I guess that's why you start a thread like this, but its Christ that lives in us that is our hope and glory, we know who our father is, so you cant deny who you are, unless like you said you don't...
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    I could say the same about you, I feel its like you are talking into a mirror most of the time, im being honest and i answer your questions, but you don't so I would put it like you did, "your being intellectially dishonest Sir", regardless its supposed to be a discussion, I'm getting you to...
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    Do you know what the faith is? I point to the first line of the Gospel in 1 Corinthians and your reaction is to redefine and put conditions on the Grace of God that are not in scripture and then your response to Jesus dying for our sin is to bring up sin, where did it doesn't mean someone is...
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    Sounds nice but then you slip in a doosey and say not in this life, and you have to earn it, So its like you think Salvation is an upgraded body but Jesus is our Salvation, the moment you are born again you are transformed from darkness to the kingdom of light, Seated in heavenly places, It...
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    Its the only conclusion to your view you brought in that isn't in the new testament, is your only option if you reject the verse I showed you And I told you Jesus is eternal life and you have to receive him in this life before you die 1 tim 6:16, only God is immortal, You need to be joined to...
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    Well your train of thought is foreign to the new testament so Christians wont be able to relate to what you are saying, you have separated eternal life from the moment Christ came into them, Your saying it hasn't happened yet and then you are telling Christians it cant happen to them either in...
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    Ok well, no more gas-lighting strawmen then, But where did OSAS theology come from? isn't that a strawman you erected? let's tear that down as well, so that leaves us with spiritual death, Have you heard of the gift of God being eternal life? So this gift that God gives = himself, and he said he...
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    From scripture Judas never called Jesus Lord, So why do you think your opinion can claim things Judas' heart couldn't. Salvation is not by works, so trying to pretend a christian can become unborn spiritually is just an attempt to take their faith off Christ to keep them saved, and put their...
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    WHAT IS SIN AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF SIN???????????

    Fair enough, I don't know the full discussion but I didn't realize there was a greater subject at hand? So I was pointing to the most important thing there is and the solution to the op as well, The Cross of Christ
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    WHAT IS SIN AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF SIN???????????

    The context was your requirement for salvation is confessing your sins, But applying your answer to confessing your sin how many do you have to confess, Some of them? or all of them?,or just the ones you remember? It may make you feel better about yourself but it isn't what saves
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    If you really love and adore someone, how do you want to show them or treat them, But if you don't separate works from salvation its because you are trying to earn it
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    WHAT IS SIN AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF SIN???????????

    What is required for Salvation is the Blood of Jesus, Jesus shed his Blood for our sins, Repentance that is required is turning from unbelief to Belief in the Gospel
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    it's not input it's getting you to look at yourself, who are you trusting yourself or Jesus
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    Because it should never say what you think it should say because you are not the truth, it is he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ, so to persevere is to not deny the truth or the faith, so how do you persevere Jesus answered and said unto them...
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    That has nothing to do with what your faith is in, Like i said there is 2 options yourself or Jesus, And Salvation is not by works