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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    You cannot extrapolate the whereabouts of a whole 9 1/2 tribes based on your wanting information. Historical fact is that the northern kingdom was taken captive and displaced all over the Assyrian empire, as it was Assyrian conquering tactics to disperse their conquered enemies into unknown...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    Following the return of Messiah on the clouds, the TRUE Israel believers in Messiah will be gathered, as well as the Gentiles believers in Messiah... and Israel will be divided among the twelve tribes of true Israel gathered by Messiah in the clouds.
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    The Jews (Jew - Jew-dah / Judah tribe) are the southern kingdom three tribes today occupying the southern and northern kingdom... They are not representative of the twelve tribes... as the majority of the northern kingdom's 9 1/2 tribes were taken captive by Assyrian armies and were dispersed...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    Israel is Israel, and some of Israel like Jesus and his twelve Jewish disciples is part of the Church. The Church is the Body of Messiah and has nothing to do with Israel. Israel, like the rest of the Gentile world will be under Messiah's rule in the Millennial Kingdom and Israel's tribes will...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    Jesus was from the tribe of Judah, people knew their tribal identity. One individual's whereabouts however is not representative of what history tells us what happened to most of a tribe. christianzionism does not fit history, God's Word, nor the future Millennial Kingdom.
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    In the same sense that there are a few Chinese in Chinatown New York, Chinese people does not mean New Yorkers, but it collectively, representatively would be referring to the world's population residing east of Russia in China. Anna from the tribe of Asher is not collectively, representative...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    Yes, in the Millennium Kingdom we agree. The Millennium Kingdom which follows Christ's return to earth at our rapture.
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    Do you honestly think that because a few individuals from the northern kingdom migrated to the south and surfaced in the writings, it means that thousands upon thousands of captured and transplaced northern kingdom Assyrian captives of 722BC just resurfaced before their time of punishment...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    There are only one Body of Christ, Jew and Gentile Christians alike are fellow heirs alike in the Body of Christ. Read about the one (Jew and Gentile) united Body of Christ olive tree, with Christ the One Root of Romans 11. Ephesians 3 (NKJV) 6that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    Matthew 24 (NKJ) Rapture: 31And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His [d]elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Post-tribulation context: 29“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    Israel (all twelve tribes Ephraim and Juda as described in Ezekiel 37) will be restored to their land only under the Davidic Messiah, following the tribulation at His return in the clouds and the gathering of all believers under Messiah, of Israelite (in Israel) descendancy and Gentile (in the...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    I think pretribbers have been programmed to believe in a pretrib rapture as part of their Salvation. Unfortunately they think that they will not be raptured whenever God has ordained it to happen (pre or post tribulation), if they do not believe in a pretribulation rapture. The Gospel tells us...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    Read the whole of Romans 11 as well as: Ephesians 3 (NKJV) 6that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ through the gospel, 7of which I became a minister according to the gift of the grace of God given to me by the effective working of...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    I believe in the rapture, at the Second Coming of Christ, after the great tribulation, ie. post tribulationism, the way it was believed for centuries before 1830's John Nelson Darby's christianzionism.
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    Just the name antichrist renders pretribulationism obsolete... Let's say all the Christians raptures out together with the resurrected believers in their glorified bodies, before the antichrist starts the great tribulation... Why would the antichrist then be called antichrist, if there is no...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    Please set out simply, where you see everybody in the final, to be delivered at judgement, Body of Christ finding themselves during the 3.5 years of the second half of the great tribulation.
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    2 Thessalonians 2 (NKJV) 1Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of [a]Christ had come. 3Let no one...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    Revelation 20 (NKJV) 4And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their...