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  1. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    Oh, but we are: Genealogies of... angels.
  2. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    Some people don't like to be challenged, and then they cry wolf.
  3. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    No one has resorted to insults. And no one is insulting you. I am calling on you to live up to your words. Call me out as the liar that I am and handle Post 224 while you're at it. "Insults," she cries. "Liar, liar," she cries. Yapping like a poodle. Have some merit and handle the objection.
  4. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    You went back and edited your post after I responded. No, Job does not. And I provided ample evidence. Handle it. Post 224.
  5. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    Or perhaps they make "no sense" because you don't read with your cap on, Magenta. What is the point? Are you absolutely clueless? Did you forget the question? Did you forget the downvote? Did you forget the objection?
  6. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    Let's try this, but this time with our thinkings caps on. I just quoted you. Does that mean I think you are inspired? No, in fact, I totally disagree with you. Yes, Jude is inspired. But that does not mean that every source he cites, is. The NT is replete with examples where "uninspired"...
  7. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    The text that Jude refers to in Jude 1:9, and has been mentioned more than I can count on two hands. Perhaps it may do you some good to read my comments in the correct chronological order.
  8. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    I don't get it. I love you as a sister, but of all, you have cited non-inspired source materials and continue to do so every single day. Those sources (through your mems) may contain some bit of truth, but so do the sources I have cited. Numerous people here have cited "uninspired" sources...
  9. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    No body is insulting you, and if you read Post 224, then you'd better understand my comments about "Yapping like a poodle." Your post is "yap," "yap," "yap." Much like this post is. It is not intended as an insult toward you, but pointing out that it is neither profitable to further advance...
  10. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    Yapping like a poodle... . Go study. For crying out loud. It might beseach you to pick up a commentary or two along the way as well, instead of relying on halfquotes from the internet. Entrench yourself in the literature. Get back on track to what bigger and badder minds have had to say...
  11. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    More of this: Less of this: You are, after all interested in what God has "instructed" you to do, per your closing statement, right? Maybe try taking your own advice. Take the loss, and go learn. More time is needed in Scripture, young padwon. And maybe an elder to help guide you along...
  12. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    The words of a man’s mouth are deep waters; The fountain of wisdom is a bubbling brook. 5 To show partiality to the wicked is not good, Nor to thrust aside the righteous in judgment. 6 A fool’s lips bring strife, And his mouth calls for blows. 7 A fool’s mouth is his ruin, And his lips are the...
  13. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    I think it is important. You have continually made reference to "strange things" happening, and indeed "strange" things are going on all around us (in the news and headlines). So I say these things so that people can understand (with clear conscious) of the proper pecking order so that when...
  14. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    Due to the attempts made on this forum to associate Jesus with the angelic figure, “Michael” from the “Assumption of Moses” (cited in Jude 9) via Zech. 3:2; I do want to point out that “the Assumption of Moses” is but a 1st c. Jewish scribal attempt at understanding Zech. 3:2. And that is all...
  15. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    I would like to preface this by saying: I am an extremely skeptical person, and try to be very cautious in voicing my thoughts. I am more critical of my own views than probably any of my own critics could ever be. That said, I do not tend to express my thoughts or conclusions in an open forum...
  16. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    Why do you read into my words what are not present? You think I'm talking down to you. I am not. I'm as cool, calm, and collected, and saying this with a straight face. I may be a bit witty sometimes, but that doesn't mean I am talking down to you. At no point in this thread did I insult...
  17. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    Exactly. All because of this: And not enough of this:
  18. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    "If you would take the pains but to examine the wars of Pompey the Great, you shall find, I warrant you, that there is no tiddle-taddle nor pibble-pabble in Pompey’s camp." – William Shakespeare
  19. williamjordan

    Jesus, before becoming a man

    Yes, there was a reason I put the word in quotations. I was playing off the word, "tattle," but that was not the direct reference I had in mind given the discussion.