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    Mystery Babylon

    Very nice presentation sir. I can respect this as not just being someone making a claim without a reasoned dissertation. Even though I think we would both be wasting each others time speaking about the book of Revelation when we are separated by a 2000 year barrier between our understandings, we...
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    Mystery Babylon

    Yes....follow it through to its conclusion, ask the next question, WHO did Jesus defeat at Armageddon, ? Well Vial #6 tells us who these Nations were that fell, thus we can see who Babylon is. Rev. 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water...
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    Mystery Babylon

    Most anything that god speaks of is "Literal" even if He uses code words or metaphors. Thee Woman {Sun, moon and stars of Gen. 37:9} in Rev. 12 literally means Israel in code, the Red Dragon means Satan. I assume the Tree of Life is Jesus/God. Mystery, {COMMA} Babylon the Great are just NAME...
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    Mystery Babylon

    True, but we can follow Apollyon in the Old Testament, via his name of Abaddon or the Destroyer. We have to read all three of those chapters {Rev. 9, 11 and 17} and put it together to understand it. I never got Rev. 17 was about a different Beast until I understand the one in Rev. 17 has NO...
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    Mystery Babylon

    No disrespect sir, we can discuss the Gospels, Genesis etc. etc. But when you think Revelation happened 2000 years ago and I see it as future, we are just wasting our time discussing it tbh. And by the way, I basically know of no one that thinks that Revelation is past tense, besides a few {very...
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    Mystery Babylon

    Yes, its the same Demon, Apollyon is the Scarlet Colored Beast of Rev. 17, Rev. 11 and Rev. 9. Hes a king thus he is OF THE SEVEN...but is an 8th. God loves giving us these riddles that confuse the world, but we can figure out. The Seven Heads and 10 Horns always represent the same area, the...
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    Mystery Babylon

    You are too far out there for me to help.............I can't reel that thinking back in so I am not going to even try.
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    Mystery Babylon

    Its a Metaphor, we overcame the Beast via our blood. God locked up Apollyon. Apollyon does kill the Two-witnesses, the scripture says the Beast that arose out of the pit killed them. Rev. 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit...
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    Mystery Babylon

    I'm 55, just had my prostrate taken out, had a Heart attack three years ago and have diabetes, and I ran 5 miles a day until age 40. So I now feel like an old man also, so I know the feeling, LOL. The False Prophet is not mentioned in Daniel either, and there is a specific reason for that...
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    Mystery Babylon

    I agree, the church is Raptured in Rev. 4:1, but those in Rev. 7:9-17 are not on earth, but in Heaven, that's the point. Those 70th week Saints will not go go Heaven, they are judged on earth {Rev. 20:4} then serve on earth with Jesus for 1000 years. Those seen in Heaven are the Raptured Church...
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    Mystery Babylon

    Its the same Gospel, the Bride is not on earth during the 70th week, nor is the Groom of course, they {we} are Marrying the Lamb in Heaven, see Rev. 19. Babylon = the Whole World. Its a metaphor for Satan's Dark Kingdom on earth. He told Jesus in Luke 4 that all these Kingdoms were his to do as...
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    Mystery Babylon

    Agreed, the Rev. 13 Saints are the 70th week Saints, the Jews who Flee Judea are protected in Petra, the Gentiles who make up the Remnant Church seen in Rev. 12:17 are these Saints, I suppose some Jews who repent will not make it to Petra. However the Saints seen in Rev, 7:9-17 are the Raptured...
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    Mystery Babylon

    It wouldn't be called EVERLASTING if it wasn't about the Good News of Jesus Christ would it ? Nothing is EVERLASTING but God. No other Gospel is everlasting.
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    Mystery Babylon

    The Two-witnesses preach to the Jews, I suppose people {Gentiles} might hear them on TV, but Rev. 11:1-3 is about the Two-witnesses parameters imho, they are called to get the Jews to repent, just like Malachi 4:5-6 says. An Angel preaches the Gospel to all others according to the scriptures...
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    Mystery Babylon

    Like I said, Babylon is this evil world under Satan's rule. The Bride is in the world know, the light of the world imho is the Church, once we are Raprured to Heaven to marry the Lamb the above verse you cited would thus be fulfilled, so that was a good catch, as per my belief anyway. Rev. 18...
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    Mystery Babylon

    Its not Rome, Babylon proper, NYC, America, Jerusalem etc. etc. as a matter of fact the Harlot is not a place but a thing, Babylon is a place, buts it is all the whole world. People seem to want to "Mandate" that a "Great City" anywhere or everywhere its mentioned has to be The Harlot even...