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    Speaking in tongues

    It rarely happens anymore, but it is always a tense moment when someone delivers a message in tongues. Total silence while we wait for the interpretation. You could hear a pin drop. And one has to wonder, is it me? Am I the one to give the interpretation? Always a relief and blessing when it...
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    Out Of This World

    I think that is the counterbalance to his poetic statement. He is not in the world, they are in the world.
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    Speaking in tongues

    More out-of-context declarations from you. We are not seeking a sign. Unlike you we are believers in the manifestations of the Holy Spirit.
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    Speaking in tongues

    The elect are asked to check prophecy against what we already have to validate it. If it passes muster it is received with gladness.
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    Speaking in tongues

    Wrong. That assumes the the Bible was written as a book rather than collected as a canon of works.
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    Out Of This World

    The other way to look at it is that the NIV translators properly rendered the idiom. We don't always mean what we say literally. If I lose my concetration I might ask, "Where was my head?" Does this mean that my head had gone missing temporarily? Not at all. It means that my mind had wandered. I...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    That's good. The way I like to explain it is, baptism is a ceremony. A ceremony is an outward sign of an inward reality. Or at least it should be. My understanding is that baptism is a PUBLIC confession of faith that FOLLOWS a personal confession of faith. The outward ceremony for the inward...
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    Out Of This World

    The NIV translates the phrase as follows: "I will remain in the world no longer..." I suppose we should look at the Greek?
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    Speaking in tongues

    If you want doctrine for the manifestations of the Holy Spirit we have I Corinthians 12-14. And the book of Acts. That's about ninety-five percent of what the Bible has to say about it. If you really want NT doctrine you should believe in the two baptisms. That was the pattern established in...
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    Speaking in tongues

    Was membership to the body of Christ closed at Revelation 22 ??? As long as there are new members there will be manifestations of the Holy Spirit to distribute. The church you are proposing is an amputee. Missing important body parts. You are the eye saying to the hand, “I don’t need you!” -...
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    Speaking in tongues

    These are good points. Those who don't speak in tongues like to view this as unbreakable ridged commands about tongues. Those who do speak in tongues understand that this is general guidance, not unbreakable ridged commands.
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    Speaking in tongues

    Yes, I think the leadership approval idea helps with some of the current (recent) issues with prophecy and tongues. But I don't think it was that way with the first century church. No indication of such. So, that bothers me a bit. We shouldn't have these restrictions except to deal with recent...
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    Speaking in tongues

    Could we vote him off the island? Or is that not how this works?
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    Speaking in tongues

    What are my options?
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    Speaking in tongues

    We should talk about the NT pattern of two baptisms. 1) Water baptism 2) The baptism with the Holy Spirit Here below is one key text. How is it that these "new believers" in Samaria had not yet received the Holy Spirit? And how is it that "they received the Holy Spirit" when the Apostle...
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    Speaking in tongues

    We should also apply this to these other instances of tongues speaking. These are not evangelistic tongues. Acts 8:14-17 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria. 15 When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers...
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    Speaking in tongues

    We should clarify that point. (bold emphasis mine) But perhaps you meant it as stated. Private tongues used TO ADDRESS a public assembly are not considered edifying. That would be edifying to me personally, but the Apostle was seeking to correct the over-the-top abuse of it by the Corinthian...
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    Speaking in tongues

    I Corinthians chapter 12.
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    Speaking in tongues

    And I quote: "if a person is deceived, what is going to come out of their mouth? lies or truth?" - 7seasrekeyed
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    Speaking in tongues

    In my Bible I Corinthians chapter 14 comes after chapter 13. (not before)