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  1. biblestudent78

    What if repentance is not about feeling guilty, regretful or ashamed? How do you define repentance?

    Thanks Burn1986: I do get carried away at times. Genez: I get 1 John 5:16, but perhaps a broader context will help: “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 “Why do you...
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    How do we distinguish false Christ & false Prophets according to Our Lord?

    I appreciate the quandary I put you in. When you must default to dogma, it is unfortunate. "Objective reality test, but not a command" is dogma. I get Romans 13:1-4 and John 18:36 and I raise you with Revelation 9... where God and Jesus torture humans for years then create a winepress and...
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    The rapture is close?

    One of the BIG problem when it comes to interpreting apocalyptic literature is that you are either in or out. If you believe in the rapture that was popularized in the 1830's but reject that Jesus will return to toucher humans as never before. He will bring violence unspeakable on humans and...
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    How do we distinguish false Christ & false Prophets according to Our Lord?

    OMC: As usual, I find myself struggling with your citations, especially when you hide under an umbrella of "proof texts" that do not prove you contention. Deut 18 has these features. 1 There is no land inheritance for a priest. 2. Priest will eat from sacrifices. 3. Do not imitate conquered...
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    What if repentance is not about feeling guilty, regretful or ashamed? How do you define repentance?

    Interesting examples. How is it that the Creator God had no idea of what his created would do? Who put evil in the garden. How is it that certain men (but never women) can get God to change His mind when nobody else on earth can do so? I am interested in your perspective. I respect your choice...
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    How do we distinguish false Christ & false Prophets according to Our Lord?

    OMC: Well written, but i think you misunderstand my point. There have always been false prophets in the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament. They cannot hurt us now. They have no power except to assist in waging theological warfare against competing Christian theologies. Even then, their power...
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    What if repentance is not about feeling guilty, regretful or ashamed? How do you define repentance?

    wattie, The theory that repentance is just a form of mental understanding with no impact on life is the saddest definition I here from time to time. The sad companion theory is the "repentance" is only "deciding" to change your mind about Jesus. That net effect of that theory is we are free to...
  8. biblestudent78

    The rapture is close?

    I have been both reading and studying the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament for 68 years. I must apologize as I have not yet got to the part of the New Testament were Jesus and the Apostles (we only have Peter, James and John) are ever "defending truth." They were documenting the truth that...
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    How do we distinguish false Christ & false Prophets according to Our Lord?

    DavidLamb: It is easy to point fingers at ancient "false prophets" when it comes to defending a medieval theology. You have 600 yrs of people who have encapsulated, packaged and sold your lineage what you believe. You have handed down proof texts validating every jot and tiddle of your adopted...
  10. biblestudent78

    The rapture is close?

    I fully understand the emotional dissonance some may feel when there is any suggestion that Christianity is not a 1,700 old theological debate where "truth" is handed down in a "perfect" theological mental model that's sole purpose is distinguish "Our Truth" vs "Their Truth." I am, and never...
  11. biblestudent78

    The rapture is close?

    FredVB, Omegatime, Psalm1, Lovette: These theological abstractions about what may or may not happen in the future are too often, IMHO a smokescreen to avoid true conversion. We are not called to Theological theories we are called to new lives now. We are called to self-denial now. We are called...
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    What if repentance is not about feeling guilty, regretful or ashamed? How do you define repentance?

    ScooterJackson: In general, it is not a good idea to equate human musing on life with a divine, loving and forgiving God. Proverbs 6:26 (The cost of a loose life) – "You can buy an hour with a prostitute for a loaf of bread, but a married woman goes after your very life." This verse reduces...
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    What if repentance is not about feeling guilty, regretful or ashamed? How do you define repentance?

    Soyeong: To start, Proverbs is not part of the Torah A very interesting perspective. I honestly have never considered my theological framework and belief system to include much if anything in the Torah. Torah compliance leaves a few problems for modern folks: You may not worship God except in...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    ScooterJackson: What you define as the "New Testament" was chosen by the Christian Church controlled by Rome around 380 AD. Prior to that time many "non-canonical" were read and revered by those living much, much, much closer to the time of Jesus.
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    What if repentance is not about feeling guilty, regretful or ashamed? How do you define repentance?

    I change my mind daily about what to watch of TV. My greatest criticism of 21st century Christianity is that is has "evolved" to a collection of "intellectual propositions" that are divorced from any lived Christian reality. Repentance only becomes important in pursuit of the mission we are...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    OMC: I am not making any "argument." Thus, I have my "entire argument is wrong" is not a logical statement but one driven by the discord of having a "sacred" narrative that once was not a sacred and not a narrative. If my recounting of history is errant, then make the case my understanding of...
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    What if repentance is not about feeling guilty, regretful or ashamed? How do you define repentance?

    An incomplete definition in the context of the New Testament. Repentance is a change of direction having failed to achieve the mark. Sometimes we see it in adult who is baptised and they are "raised to walking in a newness of life." We all change our minds daly. There to eat, what to shop for...
  18. biblestudent78

    'Sell your possessions and give to the poor'

    Jesus was in so many way talking to way more than his disciples.
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    'Sell your possessions and give to the poor'

    OMC, as usual, I am agreement with your heart if not your theology. By unilaterally declaring Jesus command to elevate the Kingdom over money is " Never treated like a "Universal Rule" is a dictate of wealthy people looking to protect their wealth. This "modern" ...Jesus had no idea of a...
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    'Sell your possessions and give to the poor'

    Dino246 Far be it from me to be scripture quoting guy as too often these are just proof texts. However your statement "that rest of the biblical teaching on money, wealth, and giving, you will see a fuller picture," invites some feedback on what the "bible teaches" on these subjects: Matthew...