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Well said - in defining "eternal life" one should start with the noun - life - What is life? OSAS starts with the adjective "eternal" and lets the definition of "eternal" define the noun.

I base my definition of a "different gospel" upon what Paul writes in Galations 1:6,7: I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another (heteros) gospel: 7 Which is not another (allos); but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the...

Matthew 6:29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

Though I am surely not a Calvinistic, I will tell you quite clearly and plainly that Calvinism in and of the teaching itself is not a different gospel.

I wonder why you think it will be an "alien world with which I am totally unfamiliar"? Surely you are right in that there will be things we have never seen or dreamed of here. But on the other hand, the new earth will surely look like and feel similar/familiar to us.

In my opinion: both are 100% true We do not become a believer out of own effort; yet, on the other hand, it takes all we have and are in our coming to Christ!

As I saw in a few other comments, a key is what is meant by "believe"? Believing may begin with a mental assent to a list of doctrines - that is - I believe those statements are true and correct. But this is not saving faith. If the OP is talking about this (which is the way I read the OP)...

Not sure I follow you: previously you said "The Holy Spirit indwells those who are unregenerate . . ." but now you say then "we are and remain unregenerate right up to the point where we become indwelt by the Holy Spirit, which indwelling, occurs as a part of being saved/born again" ?? It...

Do you have a verse for that?

Wow! According to this post and these numbers, since last Saturday when you posted almost 196,000,000 must have somehow escaped Hades! :oops:

You are absolutely right that salvation is by grace through faith, and not by works! And you are right that there is nothing in the Bible about having to keep working in order to see if your initial experience was real. But as for not knowing anyone who believes that? I hear this all the time...

Salvation is always based upon one's believing in Jesus Christ. If you believe, you are saved. If you do not believe, you are not saved. Belief in OSAS means that one's assurance is based upon the validity and security of the event when one was born again. But what if one starts sinning...

The above is exactly what I referenced in post #1951: "Once saved always saved" in actuality teaches that one must keep on doing good works in order to be secure and have assurance of salvation. If you do not keep on doing enough good works (or if you are deeply struggling with sin -...

Some good questions you are asking here . . . A key part of this discussion is what is "eternal life"? If you define eternal life primarily as "living forever" then unbelievers also have eternal life. But that is not what eternal life is . . .! One must always start by defining the noun and...

So you admit that there are no verses that explicitly say that once a person is saved, that they can never be lost?

So does Hebrews 13:8 say that once a person is saved, that they can never be lost again?

Romans 8:32-35 are very beautiful powerful wonderful verses. PTL! But how do these verses clearly say that once a person has been saved that they can never be lost? Please explain?

There is a clear difference between having human desires (which is of course normal for all of us) and using those desires to indulge in sexual pleasure. Concupiscence is taking the temptation to sin and indulging in and enjoying the sin. Here is a direct quote from what you said is Paul's...

This does not make good spiritual sense to me: that Paul's thorn in the flesh is concupiscense: and then as you define it "the desire and enjoyment of carnal pleasure". If you are right (and I am questioning this) then are you saying that Paul had a strong sexual lust problem - he prayed...

Matthew 6:17 KJV But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;