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    Hermeneutics: Interpreting Scripture

    "What I like to call "The Silent God Theory" is the premise of your final question. It says "God does not speak to us today except through the Bible. If you want to know God's will, you must go find it in the Bible. If you want to obey God, then you must obey the Bible." The problem, of course...
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    Hermeneutics: Interpreting Scripture

    God reveals to us "In time" as it's the only framework we have. We have no concept of God outside what He chooses to reveal to us "in time". Theopnuestos - God breathed the word into existence using men "in time". All men are fully equipped, with this alone, for every good work. To state there...
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    Eve did not sin by eating of the tree.

    Again, point out how Eve violated a command God gave her. Point to it for me? Show me how she disobeyed a single command given to her by God or that she was commanded to obey Adam. Plus explain why nothing happened when she touched or ate, until she gave to Adam the Fruits and got him to eat...
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    Eve did not sin by eating of the tree.

    There are two commands given to them both, together. There is one command given to Adam alone. When he violated it, both their eyes are opened at the same time. "Both" their eyes are opened when Adam ate. Since Eve's obedience to Adam only is required after the fall, as one of her consequences...
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    Eve did not sin by eating of the tree.

    Problem: Both Eve and Adam are both privates. No change in rank until AFTER the fall. Eve's needing to obey Adam occurs as a consequence of the fall. It does not apply "BEFORE" the reason for consequences occur. If you do not concur, point out where God commands Eve to obey Adam prior to the...
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    Hermeneutics: Interpreting Scripture

    You prove my point, "It is written". You wouldn't know that fact apart from God's word. Salvation comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. There is no "knowledge of God" apart from the scriptures. They teach us what God has said and meant. It's the "voice" of God" and apart...
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    The Gate to Life

    Yes, I understand that annihilation is being destroyed forever AFTER justice is done. But if that happens for those who are lost, then heaven only lasts that long as well and ends. Eternal destruction and eternal life last for the exact same time. Eternity in hell and eternity in heaven. You...
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    Eve did not sin by eating of the tree.

    No. Both were guilty. Adam for violating the command given to Him by God alone. Eve for failing in the role for which she was created by "Giving the fruit to the man and getting him to eat." God even includes what Eve had done in the reasons why he got his consequences. "Because you have...
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    Eve did not sin by eating of the tree.

    All Eve "knew" was lies. Every bit of it. Nothing at all was truth. What she said had nothing at all to do with what God said. Nothing. Did God tell Adam to make sure he told Eve, and all his descendants not to eat or touch the tree? Did God tell Adam to just tell Eve that? Show me...
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    Hermeneutics: Interpreting Scripture

    Interesting statement, since there is nothing we can "Know" about God or Christ, apart from scriptures, and apart from them there is no way to even know, let alone believe, the true gospel. "Salvation comes by hearing, and hearing buy the Word of God." How do the scriptures distance you from...
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    Eve did not sin by eating of the tree.

    I didn't say Eve didn't believe a bunch of statements that were complete lies. She believed them all right. Up until she touched the tree and didn't die and then ate from the tree and didn't die. Oh, she believed every single word up till then. And then she gave the fruit to Adam, and he ate...
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    Eve did not sin by eating of the tree.

    I agree, or Christ's death is meaningless. Yep. Everythig Eve says is a complete lie. God said nothing about Eve dieing when she ate or touched the tree. As you stated, how could she receive the command from God as she wasn't even created yet. Eve "understood" the complete...
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    Eve did not sin by eating of the tree.

    Wonderful. Go through point by point and enlighten me.
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    Eve did not sin by eating of the tree.

    It is. That is a good point. Now, using logic and reason, and what we do have from the account, who told Eve something completely different that what God commanded Adam alone. Are you stating there is ANY other possibility based on the text and Eve's exceedingly fearful, if inaccurate, wording...
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    Eve did not sin by eating of the tree.

    I agree. God never gave the command to her, and it wasn't meant for her at all.
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    Eve did not sin by eating of the tree.

    Well, I suppose you can say it is in accordance with my understanding. According to your understanding, did God give commands to bot Adam and Eve together? According to your understanding, did God give the command not to eat to Adam alone, before Eve was created? You know, "To Adam...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    I get it. I "want to believe" all kinds of things. I am only analyzing the data, and there is a lot more I didn't include. What's the purpose for gifts? What's the purpose of the word of God? Eph 4:12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of...
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    The Gate to Life

    Well, ... I get that you want to believe the lost are annihilated or "Destroyed", i.e. gone without consciousness, ... but ... 2Th 1:9 And these will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, Even in this passage...
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    Eve did not sin by eating of the tree.

    Don't forget to include what God was referring directly to. He never even thinks of bringing up Eve's eating. She did that because now, with a conscience, she believes she's in violation of what Adfam told her. She thinks it's about that. God is directly asking her, "What is THIS that thou hast...
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    Eve did not sin by eating of the tree.

    Apart from the knowledge of good and evil they had no idea what sin was, or that lying was evil. They didn't even know they were naked, or that that was a problem till after Adam ate. Prior to eating of the tree, the only "POSSIBLE" sin was Adam eating of the tree.