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  1. Clayman

    Born Again - How Does That Relate To Us Today

    Of course I would say God can never be dishonest, and this seems to be a recurring theme in relation to the sovereignty of God and predestination. The argument is pretty much the same, as the folk who say Adam when he chose if he ate of the fruit or not, conclude if he didn't eat of the fruit...
  2. Clayman

    Born Again - How Does That Relate To Us Today

    If it didnt happen then, then Jesus did not tell them a truth, and he clearly said; Luke 9:27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God . If it did not happen, even for a good reason, then God said something that...
  3. Clayman

    Born Again - How Does That Relate To Us Today

    Born again and being a new creation are synonymous in my thinking, as in a new spiritual birth, and are related to how one perceives the kingdom, to me the Pharisees and most of Israel had it wrong when they waited for a Messiah to come and deliver them from the kingdom of the Romans and to set...
  4. Clayman

    Eph 4:11-12, Which one are you?

    I went to edit my post after I posted, seems like there's a trick I need to learn to do it, ill just read what I write before I hit the post button this time. I was musing upon the bolded I realise you will look at other people for the perfecting of one self, as Im sure we agree the whole body...
  5. Clayman

    Eph 4:11-12, Which one are you?

    I take it the only gifted minister you have known in 38 years is the HS/Lord, otherwise if a man you will also inherit all the exact same errors he has. Everyone receives a gift from God, there are gifted teachers out there who are atheists and do a great job of teaching evolution(from a...
  6. Clayman

    Born Again - How Does That Relate To Us Today

    Oh, you mean like how Paul was converted on the road to Damascus?
  7. Clayman

    Pre Trib or Post trib rapture?

    Im not trying to be facetious, Im trying to work out from where your coming from before I can agree or disagree, Im wanting to know if you have the bowl judgments following the the 7th trumpet or if they run simultaneous? some people have the bowl judgments in the seventh trumpet and end up...
  8. Clayman

    Pre Trib or Post trib rapture?

    I'm used to reading the bible with things not in chronological order, so I didn't really take stock of the fact, To me He's answering the disciples question about when and what will be the signs of His coming at the end of the age, So He answers that first, then He adds another element, the...
  9. Clayman

    Pre Trib or Post trib rapture?

    Haha, I dont understand why there would be more encounters! once pretrib is explained people will see it, then understand and there will no longer be any debate!:devilish: A question! do you and do other post-tribbers see the seventh trump of revelation as the last trump for the rapture? I...
  10. Clayman

    Pre Trib or Post trib rapture?

    Thanks for posting, it is a great picture :D I also like reminding people, when Abraham sent his servant to fetch the bride for his son, In contrast to the end of the age, he said that Isaac was not to go to her land to fetch her himself, Although He did go out to meet her when she was already...
  11. Clayman

    Pre Trib or Post trib rapture?

    Exactly the same conclusion I arrived at ;):)
  12. Clayman

    Pre Trib or Post trib rapture?

    Sorry when I reread it, it does come of as condescending Then explain the contradiction to me, how do I know the hour the Lord will return, which is after the 70th week, to how I do not the hour the Lord is coming? (to catch some away and not others)
  13. Clayman

    Pre Trib or Post trib rapture?

    Why does not God speak plainly it would clear up so much confusion? Why did Jesus not explain plainly that He was in fact God? Why did He not say simply and straight up "I God have come in the form of a human to die as a sacrifice on the cross to redeem you all my friends"? Everyone including...
  14. Clayman

    Who is "the god of this world"? God or satan?

    Mainstream thinking in the last few decades has seen a slight shift to attributing sin from man to Satan, the idea of a perfect God allowing humans to choose a condition that eternally separates from Himself seems like its theological anathema to some, for how can a loving God allow any of this...
  15. Clayman

    Who is "the god of this world"? God or satan?

    I wonder if its worth asking, How does God blind the minds of them that believe not? To me its quite simple He sent the light into the world! And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children...
  16. Clayman

    Israel and the present conflict

    Ok thanks (y), Im at work will try and watch later... Obviously they still reject Jesus so are not believers of God in the true sense. Abraham, Moses and all those of faith if they lived at the time of Jesus or even now would have believed in and accepted Jesus and become followers of the Way...
  17. Clayman

    Israel and the present conflict

    So what was the true religion of Israel That the Hebrews departed from in Zech?
  18. Clayman

    Israel and the present conflict

    Its a terrible term to use its been stolen and hijacked, bit like someone explained to me once we are part of the catholic Church, but its also been stolen by the Catholic religion which is how people see it. Does Zech 5:5-11 still have future fulfillment? The prophesied departure from the...
  19. Clayman

    Israel and the present conflict

    I see true Judaism as the Old testament covenant and law given by God to His people, Jesus is a Judaist in the fullest sense, and you and I are the results of Judaism that fully reveals Gods grace and mercy through the redemption of His Son. You talked about the false Judaistic teachers in...
  20. Clayman

    Who Killed Jesus?

    :unsure: Thanks, If only I could get my wife to take a leaf out of your book :LOL: