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Here is the text: A few days later, when Jesus again entered Capernaum, the people heard that he had come home. They gathered in such large numbers that there was no room left, not even outside the door, and he preached the word to them. Some men came, bringing to him a paralyzed man, carried...

No, this is not the apparent takeaway. You are totally unaware to the difference between the roof being pulled off in Mark 2:3-4 and the need for repairs on Pentecostal church roofs. Your comments are mind numbing. Can anyone here please explain to JimiSurvivor the meaning of the lack of roof...

Quite true and yes it is a given. This is why we pray for healing. It seems you understand the OP, many here do not. Correct but those such as Gideon300, CS1 and presidente are incapable of separating the two. They mindlessly drone on, insisting that others are declaring that God has...

What is at issue is the validity of the event. If the claimed event did not happen then our perception of the event is moot. This is a common error of logic on this thread. Example: John 5 Jesus purposely did a tangible physical supernatural manifestation for the masses to witness. This event...

Do you have any words of comfort for those who are not forced to become Christians.

Why did you feel the need to place membership with this church if you knew your fate by election was not in question? Would staying in the Roman Catholic Church have effected your election?

In what way does these verses affect what Jesus said in Mark 16:16? On the issue of "talking out of both sides of your mouth", simple. You are implying that Jesus was both stating that baptism is needed to be saved and in the same sentence that baptism is not needed.

Oh please tell me you understand the reference to Mark 2:4 that Lamar is pointing to.

Would you prefer "talking out of both sides of your mouth" to describe your comment from Post# 459. Regardless, your comment reeks of desperation.

So what is your rebuttal? Do you even have one?

This is your rebuttal???

So one clause negates the other clause in the same sentence??? In grammar that's called a double negative. In theology its called desperation. Do you use this reasoning in other aspects of your life? I doubt it. Would you use this reasoning with Proverbs 28:13? Does one clause negate the...

??? Even if this were true why would this make Pentecostalism correct or its claims valid?

I believe that the physical supernatural manifestations of the New Testament era have ceased because obviously they have. This is why the blind today do not go to Pentecostal churches to be healed. This is why families don't call prophets when a loved one dies but a mortician. You are quite...

FART is simply a humorous way of expressing faith alone regeneration theology.

If you read the OP the issue is not a "my dogma vs your dogma". What is happening here is a group of people who are insisting that physical supernatural manifestations of the Holy Spirit like those of the time during the New Testament are still happening today. Simply put, this group is...

Did you real the OP? I did. The issue is modern day claims of physical supernatural manifestations of the Holy Spirit. This discussion is not about the validity of the Bible. The testimonies of the Bible are not in question. What are you trying to pull? Are you attempting to divert? Can you...

Is this your understanding of the gospel? Nothing more than the acceptance of our fate? If our actions have no bearing on our fate, what is the point of the Bible? Why warn mankind of its fated doom if we are unable to alter it?

It was "not an issue" because people were not so blind as to accept such dubious claims. There have always been Simon Magus followers but not to the degree as they are today.

They are so invested in the claims of the Pentecostals they will not listen or believe what is right before their own eyes. They know these claims are beyond dubious but the truth means little when defending your own tribe.