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  1. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Yep, destroy do not mean cease to exist. Devil lie to him through Ellen white and he believe to encourage some to kill himself tp end suffering
  2. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    And where it say destroy mean stop to exist
  3. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    where say cease to exist? You wrong on destruction = cease to exist On car total damage, still exist
  4. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    1 Peter 3 19 After being made alive,[d] he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,
  5. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    iF unsaved cease to exist why Jesus go to hell for 3 days to preach the unsaved on Noah era to preach to non existing being?
  6. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    The wage of sin is death, Jesus die to pay the sin of human Jesus death, go to hell 3 days, Jesus die for the same reason with human, the reason is sin, to pay the wage of sin why not cease to exist.
  7. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    you say death is cease to exist don’t you?
  8. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    So you use the verse that say the wage of sin is death and you assume death is cease to exist apply you assumption to this statement Jesus die on the cross death mean cease to exist so Jesus cease to exist
  9. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    If your definition of deat is cease to exist, than Jesus death on the cross mean Jesus cease to exist on the cross Jesus is God but He come to earth as human
  10. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    You state OT harmony with NT Jesus say goat goes to eternal punishment, that verse enough to say it imply soul never die that is why in the s5ory about lazarus and the rich man, Jesus say the rich man ask Abraham send Lazarus to hell bring him a drop of water non exist can not ask anything non...
  11. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    how about you? are you SDA or Jehovah witnesses ?
  12. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    death is not cease to exist Jesus die for our sins is that mean Jesus cease to exist?
  13. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Yep only 2 group save or sheep unsaved or goat sheep go to eternal life goat to eternal punishment no group cease to exist, only 2
  14. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Jesus immortal, but He come to the earth as mortal human and die on the cross, you know what? He was not cease to exist
  15. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Jesus die for our sin, because the penalty of sin is death is that mean Jesus cease to exist? NO No No His soul life forever like our soul, life forever, some in heaven some in hell
  16. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    what is your point to use all those verses why you think those verse address free grace2 statement ”able never mean will” do you think those verse object that statement?
  17. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    It was, he lie to Eve, now he lie to human, die is better than hard life, because die is cease to exist.