Search results

Brother I am using the parmeters of Y_O_U_R_ Analogy. Those assumptions came from you, not me. Irrelevant. The question is not why he did what He did. For the 100th time I have NO issue in what He did or why He did it. I'm asking did this violate the eddict to turn the other cheek...

So again (other have made this argument) If someone insults God, or turns the church into a big flea market a few times a year, does this mean you as a christian can fashion a whip out of cords and swing it at them and kick over and stomp their stuff? Is it ok for your 'passions' to take over...

Those nuances are referenced in the cited definition. In this case with this particular word/words the text Jesus is accredited in saying would indicate more than a slap. Perhapse this is why the king James translates this word into smite/strike. smite /smīt/ To smite means to strike or hit...

ok

I'm not asking why He did what He did. I have no problem with what He did or why. I'm asking does what He did conflict with his other teachings as you pointed them out. I personally have no issue with Jesus saying do as I say not as I do. as He is sovereign and know what every action He takes...

Again, I personally have no issue with what Jesus did. I am 100% ok with a do as I say and not as I do, as God/Jesus is in a position to truly know how his actions will play out, while we do not. This fact alone is reason enough to do as He says, and not everything He does. I have stated many...

I did point this out (These transactions being held in the court of the gentiles.) I also pointed out that logistically speaking money changing was a necessity because of the command/law that dictated the purity (Could not be blood money, obtained by ill gotten gains, had to be blessed, could...

No idea what you are on about. how am I being cleaver or pedantic? Again, I have no qualms about what he did. I am asking a question that many young people growing in the faith would ask. As again, many of our young people (70% by the end of their second year at college) loose their faiths...

Is that what making a whip and using a kicking over the money changers was to you? banning someone from use of your space? What Christ did what physically removed people by force, and threatened them with great bodily harm. Which again I am in favor of.. I'm just pointing out that banning...

technically it wasn't a slap. The word used that we assume was a slap, in the greek means to strike repeatedly: τύπτω týptō, toop'-to; a primary verb (in a strengthened form); to "thump", i.e. cudgel or pummel (properly, with a stick or bastinado), but in any case by repeated blows; thus...

Let's use your analogy., and it's conclusion about people in authority being charged with the safety and protection of those under their charge.' Now. in this situation of employee2 stealing from employee 1.. Is it your job as supervisor to fashion a whip from several cords and kick over...

lol.. maybe.. or maybe not.. we will see. I explained it. In my experience (Nearly 30 years of answering questions from atheists and people in the church alike.) i found the quickest way to break the faith of a young person just out of high school and in college is to under mine scripture with...

Yes.. but the question is not why He did it. The question is should he have turned the other cheek, or perhaps approached this another way? He could have performed a few miracles and based on that authority (Supernatural powers given to Him by God) demanded that they no do this.

I do not disagree with anything you said here.

It's pretty self explanatory. The "we" refers to all of those who share this picture of Jesus. This is your question: I do not understand what you are trying to ask. Great Can you explain how this is not a contradiction? Beyond that are those who's faith is also tied to logical consistency...

maybe we should look at what you said again: So again, Jesus in Mat 6 explicitly says if you can not forgive, your sins will not be forgiven. How is that a non sequitur?

So... do as I say and not as I (I meaning Jesus) does?

I'm not saying Jesus did not practice what He preached there at the cross.. I'm saying here at the point where his passions took over, it would seem He did not turn the other cheek. Maybe it is ok to be righteously angry from time to time no? At least for Jesus/Jesus does not always have to be...

so when someone asks you a question like "What does any of this have to do with whether Jesus turned the other cheek or not, is your que to explain the "plenty" part of the discussion.

understand that the forgivness of your sins is based on your ability to forgive others. Jesus said this in several different ways. but point blank says it in mat 6: 14 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you...