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I don't twist your words, you simply don't see the contradictions you keep uttering. You said the Gospel stirred your spirit, a spirit that was dead to spiritual matters. How can this deadened spirit respond to anything? I have repeatedly asked you to explain the mechanics of how that works but...

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Why don't you explain, if both these spirits are from God, why one is going down to the earth and not returning to Him. Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it. Do you think, seeing as the writer is confident that the...

Of course I pair hearing and understanding, who in their right mind wouldn't? If you are not understanding what you are hearing what good is it to you and how can you understand if you haven't heard? Knowing you are a sinner and in need of saving does not equate to believing in the Saviour. We...

You didn't read all of it then did you because I also said (which is why my testimony is irrelevant) that we learn from the word of God not experience. I could give you a brilliant story but you must still test it against the word for it to have any value otherwise I could be spinning any old...

Such a simple comparison and yet so many cannot see it. :confused:

When I first answered you in post #1576.

So you are saying one is reborn before they hear and believe the Gospel?

How the heck do you work that out from what I said? If you can't be rational, I'm not interested in further conversation thanks.

I gave you reasons and you implied I was being dishonest. I showed you from the scriptures how one is drawn to Christ. I am no different to anyone else. The same way you can be physically dead when you don't have a body. Your analysis of nekro leaves a lot to be desired.. How can you hear...

Because initially regeneration was expected prior to the baptism of the Spirit Jn.3:3 The Spirit baptism would/could not occur until after Christ's return to heaven Jn.14:16 There were many believers prior to Christ's death and resurrection who were born from above this is why Jesus said the...

Dead is dead, there is no such thing as a partial deadness. We were dead in our sins is not physically dead or intellectually or emotionally dead, we were spiritually dead because we had no spirit living in us. Real simple. I see you never bothered to explain the actual mechanics of how we...

Excuse me? How dare you call me a liar. I explained why my experience is irrelevant. Just because you want to put your experience on par with the word of God does not give you the right to condemn me. We do not learn about God from our experience, we learn from the word of God and if you...

I'm curious as to what you would do exactly. Unless you're an Elder in the Church you have no authority over the word preached. Will you rise up and usurp another's authority and declare "unclean" and start jumping on whoever is responsible? What exactly would be your practical steps to...

My conversion is irrelevant to the conversation. We learn from the word of God, not people's experience.

Honestly? A simple statement that you perceive one way while many perceive another way. Your interpretation of things leaves one baffled at times. You claimed he said he understood the Bible where in fact it was your interpretation of what he said that came to that conclusion. Sloppy. btw It's...

It began in the garden (at least for humans) when the serpent "spun" his lie. ;)

Don't be silly, he's only a cousin or some other undefined close relative. ;) :LOL:

no it doesn't Eph.4:8-10 :LOL: Of course. A church that ended up selling salvation should be utterly trusted. :rolleyes: The Pharisees got into trouble because they made their traditions as equally important as the word. The Roman Catholic church should have learned from that. What He...

A bold statement. Show us where Peter, John or Paul taught it in the scriptures, or any first or second century saint taught it.