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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    I agree that Rome first split into two, East and West - Rome and Constantinople - But I do not think the two legs depict this, after all it has two arms and two thighs also, it is just to make up the figure of a man. As for the ten sections making one kingdom, the Western Roman Empire was...
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    Can you tell me why the clay isn't part of the legs please ?
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    I Believe the first coming was at the start of Iron Kingdom and the that stone represents the Kingdoms of Man being replaced by the Physical Kingdom of God at the second coming. Daniel 2:35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became...
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    I hope you do not mind but I am going to use your post as a template to put my own thoughts forward. We have the simple explanation given in the text itself about the Iron being strong and clay weak, but to go beyond yet and say it is Israel or it is Gods People, although it fits with the...
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    Daniel's 2300 evening and mornings prophecy

    Most Historist see the short term fulfilment of the 2300 days as being fulfilled by Antiochus Epiphanes (same as Preterist view), and a long term fulfilment of 2300 years, starting from the rise of the He-Goat (the Grecian Empire ) crossing into Europe from Asia - 334BC - forward 2300 years we...
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    I have a problem with the Antiochus Epiphanes interpretation, not saying it is wrong just that I have doubts. When observing the sucession of world empires Daniel says Medo-Persia is "great" (Daniel 8:4), Greece is "very great" (Daniel 8:8) but the little horn is "exceeding great" (Daniel...
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    I do not like that AI associates Historism with the SDA church. I am a Historist and I do not consider what they say is Historism as really Historism at all. They have twisted it to incorperate the teachings of their prophetess Ellen G White, with emphesis on not keeping the sabbeth is the mark...
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    That is a valid point - but at least I got to use the :censored: word - I found it lol
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    Thank you - If I ever use that word again I will remember now :)
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    When I typed "I became a Christian" in my mind I heard the Calvinists telling me I didn't become I was made to be - so I put "or forced to be" I wasn't forced, in fact it would of been an easier life for me not to become one - because I lost all my friends who thought I had gone mad believing...
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    When I became a Christian or forced to be ;) It all seemed so simple as I read the Bible - then I joined my first Church - A Charismatic Baptist church that used the Scofield Bible - then it was - we are the temple of god but the real temple is going to be built soon - you are saved if you...
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    At least you didn't say lies lies lies - if you get what I mean :)
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    Its hard to address complex elements in a chat, if the post is to long explaining no one will read it it :) Would make a great thread though.
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    And I do not find my take blasphemous, nor yours, we are not replacing Christ and Christians with the anti-Christ and Jews. And I do not mean to upset any futurist btw - I used to be one - but would you not try to warn someone walking towards a cliff edge ?
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    I am not sure I am understanding the question proper but Israel are still Gods people (if they are Christian I mean) they became other nations they were the barbarians hordes who destroyed the Roman Empire - Galatians in the Bible were known as the Gaul's etc and these tribes formed the European...
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    I find that blasphemous, why would Christ go to the cross become our high priest - abolish and destroy temple worship as in 70AD only to then go back to Jesus is not good enough we need a few goats and chickens and a human high priest for our salvation.
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    I see the Roman power represented by the Iron legs and then the feet as the time period that begins with the Earthly ministry of the Messiah and ends with his second coming. In Daniel it says this kingdom will be divided and it was - first into East and West then in 10 nations. When Rome...
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    King James Version Daniel 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. 25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the...
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    yes - Babylon - Medo Persia - Greece - Rome yes - and each metal is stronger but less valuable than the other. Yes to the uniqueness and yes to the no room for another kingdom or king etc, but each successive kingdom adopted attributes from the previous. Such as Rome adopting architecture...
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    The little horn of Daniel 7 and 8

    I mean Meido -Persia Empire replaced the Babylonian - then that got replaced by Grecian - then that in turn was replaced by the Roman. And the censored word was gap - I was joking about how it cant be mentioned.