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  1. biblestudent78

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Psalm 1: Some Christian scholars suggest Jesus used the cultural language of his time rather than making a technical statement about literary authorship to make a point that His Jewish listeners needed to hear.....they didn't.
  2. biblestudent78

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    A distinction without a difference....
  3. biblestudent78

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    If your framework of understanding the Bible is that everything you were told is the "truth" is the "truth" even if billions of other Christians disagree, then by all means hold your dogmas for life.
  4. biblestudent78

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Cameron143: Thoughts about the book of Daniel The book is full of symbology that probably was more intuitive to the audience to which it was written as the imagery today is strained and unfamiliar to the average reader. However, it uses familiar literary devices to demonstrate that in the...
  5. biblestudent78

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    If you are asking if I use a bible with 66 books, I do. If you are asking if I condemn those using more books scripture (but as an apocrypha) I do not. Many of the books in the 81 book cannon have never been translated into English from ancient Ethiopian.
  6. biblestudent78

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    To do justice to your question, I will review both my notes taken over the years and reread the texts you requested I respond to.
  7. biblestudent78

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Cameron143 Daniel chapters 2 through 7 form a chiastic structure which is an inverted parallel pattern where the themes of the outer chapters mirror each other as they move toward a central focus. Many forms of literature use this literary device especially poetry. I hear the term "extra...
  8. biblestudent78

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Daniel chapters 2 through 7 form a chiastic structure which is an inverted parallel pattern where the themes of the outer chapters mirror each other as they move toward a central focus.
  9. biblestudent78

    How has science impacted your perspective on the Hebrew Bible?

    A common analogy used for Christianity was "the path" and "the way." Both suggest a continuous relationship. As with most relationships if they are not pursued they die.
  10. biblestudent78

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Cameron143 Excellent question. Historically, there are two answers. Roughly 62 % of Christians alive today believe that the Book of Daniel in their bible contains 14 chapters as does the Septuagint Greek version of the Hebrew Bible but not the Hebrew Masoretic text of 1,000 AD. Protestant...
  11. biblestudent78

    How has science impacted your perspective on the Hebrew Bible?

    OMC: Well thought out. (My comments apply only to the realities I see in North American Christianity.) Unfortunately, 21st Century Christianity is a road with two paths that diverge. One is an easy path and the other a much more exciting but challenging one. In one path, let's call it rubber...
  12. biblestudent78

    How has science impacted your perspective on the Hebrew Bible?

    When I see the word "jabs" I know we are in a political sphere not a scientific one. Here is the requirements for school age kids in NY Students in New York must receive a total of five core vaccine disease groups (comprising multiple individual doses and shots depending on age and grade level)...
  13. biblestudent78

    How has science impacted your perspective on the Hebrew Bible?

    As a life long scientist (microbiology) and later computers scientist, I can clearly state that all valid scientists live in a world of humility. We know we are on a voyage of discovery where facts evolve via experimentation and continuous debate. The very beating heart of science is our...
  14. biblestudent78

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Cameron143: The portions of the Book of Daniel considered by scholars to be later Greek additions—absent from the traditional Hebrew and Aramaic text—are Susanna (often labeled Chapter 13), Bel and the Dragon (often labeled Chapter 14), and The Prayer of Azariah and Song of the Three Holy...
  15. biblestudent78

    Is Salvation an event or a process?

    Where does I Corinthians 13, where Paul says it does not matter the power of you faith, if you don't have love - horizontal and vertical - your faith is in vain? Where does Galatians 5 fall in- these are the fruits (proof) of the Spirit? Remembering Jesus analogy that the unfruitful will be cut...
  16. biblestudent78

    Is Salvation an event or a process?

    Perhaps the real "lesson" is that we are citizens in God's kingdom. It has nothing to do with human politics. Every time we attempt to graft on God's Kingdom to a human political/ethic/values - The Kingdom of God is debased. Souls are lost, the innocent crushed and morality becomes whatever is...
  17. biblestudent78

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Fillan: As I have noted, some Hebrew Bible prophecies were written after the fact, looking back and pretending they were forecasting the future. This is especially true about the book of Daniel that has both old stories about the Babylonian captivity written much later and additions to the book...
  18. biblestudent78

    How has science impacted your perspective on the Hebrew Bible?

    OMC Well said. We have a biblical window of what men have written about what God has created and who He is in the minds of people living and writing 2,700- 2,000 years ago, but not an infinite description of how God creates. We can wake up as I do, early in the morning and wonder at what God has...
  19. biblestudent78

    Is Salvation an event or a process?

    After a bunch of contradictory quotations, the reality is the same. You can "claim" saving faith because you believe the story of Jesus and you have "faith" it is true. If what you claim as "faith"is "fruitless" and undistinguishable by your life, you may have a form of what your denomination...
  20. biblestudent78

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    A definite possibility. However, they are courched in such archaic and symbolic language that it might be a tough chore. It has been a popular bible passtime for generations.