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Your misunderstanding as I understand it, is you have taken Zech. 12-14, which is a Judaic prophecy, and have applied it to the world at large in the last days. Please consider the following: “The covenant between God and the ancient nation of Israel con- tained many promises and prophecies...

You first mention "that Mark/Luke mention one man", then say, "nothing in Mark or Luke says there was only one man" You appear confused by your own explantion.

OMC, on this statement of yours I will have to agree. And will add that vs. 13 of that chapter states of Daniel, " But you [Daniel], go your way till the end; for you [Daniel] shall rest, and will arise to your inheritance at the end of the days [1335]. It is those days that comprise the closing...

Please consider Matthew 8:28, the two men demon possessed. Then read Mark 5:2, and Luke 8:27, note in these two texts only one man possessed by demons. Why the discreptancy?

History and Chronology There is one topic in the Bible where we can fully distinguish between a prophet’s. Personal opinion and those truths they saw in vision. We simply compare their statements about timing with recoded history and notice the results. We then discover that many OT and NT...

Understand your reasoning, and agree. You could start a new thread, or I could give you my email and you could share the things that you disagree with, as I would like to know exactly and for what reasons. Sure to be an interesting conversation for us both, and educational. Up to you.

Great, since the pathway to greater understanding is an open mind. I will share what I have learned from Larry Wilson's book, " Jesus Final Victory", available on Amazon. Have read many of his books and I belief he has a better understanding on closing events than anyone I've know to date, or...

They are not, because they are not apocalyptic prophecies. A apocalyptic prophecy is defined as a prophecy that has a begininng and ending point in time and each event within that prophecy is given by God in its chronological order because God knows the beginning from the end. Example, Dan. 2...

What does this have to do with the opening post?

A great post, agree totally.

Note, same texts, and three different interpretations thus far in. Consider this, God is the creator of apocalyptic prophecy, ( Daniel and Revelation). All of His creation is governed by His natural laws. If the three of you understood them and applied them correctly then your interpretations...

God is the author of apocalyptic prophecy, do you know of His natural laws that govern their interpretation, or are we free to make up our own?

Quite simple really, since the God we call Jesus, was not know as Jesus, during the OT times, or before the creation of man, by the angles, It increases one's knowledge, therefore love of God to understand all that He has done too reveal Himself to His creation, prior to taking on human form.

Bluto, thanks again for your response. That angels are created beings and should not be worshiped, is well understood and made crystal clear by those of us who understand that Michael is Jesus preincarnate. Why are you making this point, we are in agreement as my earlier posts prove? You...

2 of 2 POINT FOUR: The Old Testament contains a fascinating story of a human encounter with the heavenly Commander-in-Chief. “Now when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing in front of him with a drawn sword in his hand. Joshua went up to him and asked, ‘Are you for us or...

Bluto, In response let me first say I’m in total agreement with you that the title, Angel of the Lord,” is the title given to Jesus preincarnat. You didn’t have to make that case again. However, the Bible clear states the following facts; that it will be Michael’s voice that raises the dead...

Yes, but what roles before He took on the nature of man is the subject of this thread, any thoughts?

bluto, I appreciate your post, agree with just about all of it. Since this post is about better understanding Jesus preincarnate, I would like you and all who are following this thread to consider the following, for the purpose of better understanding our amazing God. First, I have come to...

FollowingtheWay, I do hope you become certain that the Angel of the Lord, in the two texts you posted, is Jesus pre-incarnat. Post #4, should help you come to that realization. If so your love for Jesus will grow stronger. Continue to follow this thread, as I will add more insights for you...