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The question is flawed because I am trying to defend a certain theology? Then I suggest that your response is flawed because of your attempt to defend a certain theology.

Not sure what your point is but the question is rather simple. Does the phrase "saved by faith" mean the same as "saved by faith alone"? How about this. Does the phrase "I am going to the store" mean the same as "I am going to the store alone"? Again, it is not a hard question to answer...

I have never heard of election meaning "only effectual for those who believe". You are either of the chosen or of the non-chosen. There is no chosen and also believed. There is only believed because they were chosen.

Jesus came of proclaim the gospel of Good News. Jesus did not come to save the elect. According to election the chosen are and have always been saved. The Good News Jesus proclaimed was for those already saved and not the non-chosen. That's if you believe in election.

If you are going to offer a false dichotomy, at least present scripture to define them. Your first choice is simply a claim of esoteric and metaphysical abilities hence impossible to measure its validity. Your second choice is a matter of personal judgement. IOW, one person's "mutual...

You lost me. The "it" I am referring to are the two verses (Hebrews 10.36 & Matt 10.22) used by amazingrace in post# 3334. What is the "it" that you are referring to?

Regardless of what "works" the thief on the cross did or did not do, his promise is no more our promise than the specific promises given to other individuals in the Bible. IOW, you cannot claim a promise given to someone else. The promise given to all of us is: Acts 2:38-39 Peter answered...

I'm not surprised that you would stoop to such a childish guilt by association ploy. Most denominations share common beliefs on many issues, this is to be expected. An example of such is the many LGBTQ+ affirming denominations that share faith alone regeneration theology with the numerous local...

Very well said. Clear and concise but since it goes against their narrative, it must be ignored.

I can easily say the same for you. What you witnessed was the truth but were too blind to see. John 9:39-41 Modern day gospel teachings of Andy Stanley.

Wow...that's some rebuttal. Indoctrination? Not as deep as your gospel according to Stanleyism.

I see no reason to answer your question since you have ignored mine.

Mark 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. My analogy: Whoever is a native born citizen and at least 35 years old can run for president but anyone who is not native born will be rejected. Your analogy: he who takes his medication...

What about the unchosen, who cares for them?

We are not talking about something as mundane as how to swallow a pill. Your "He who takes his medication and washes it down" analogy is a purposeful redundant attempt at twisting the meaning of what Jesus meant when He said "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved". It logically...

You cannot use one clause to negate the other clause in the same sentence. *Grammar 101. IOW, the first clause of Mark 16:16 has no purpose in the sentence if negated by the second clause. If baptism has no purpose in salvation then its insertion is nonsensical. You are forced to use this...

Regardless of how clear the verses you present, those of the faith alone regeneration theology will find a way to explain it away. They will dismiss any uncomfortable truth you present. I will bet you dollars to doughnuts that even if Jesus Himself would say verbatim "whoever believes and is...

Children of God do not bear fruit of their own. Because of election they are chosen to be the vessel of the fruit. God does the fruit bearing not the chosen or the non-chosen. Just God. If you cannot accept this then it is a sign you are not among the chosen.

I am simply saying that according to election, God does everything and man does nothing. Mankind does not accept nor receive, he simply is. God does the receiving and the accepting. Mankind is to debased to do either. Since God does your believing, if you do not believe this then you are not...