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Could you provide an example where two people are speaking in the exact same "tongue"? By 'tongue' here, I'm referring to modern tongues-speech.

No, sorry, it is not. By the very nature modern tongues-speech is produced, no two speakers will ever have the same "tongue". In addition, modern tongues-speech is not language which further makes it virtually impossible that two speakers would have the same 'tongue'.

Interpretation of languages ("tongues") is simply the rendering of language X to language Y - interpretation and translation are essentially identical; however, there is a subtle difference: the written word is typically translated, the spoken word is typically interpreted. It’s one thing to...

With respect to the phrases “divers kinds of tongues” and “diversities of tongues” (1 Cor. 12:10 and 28), one needs to look at what was actually written. First, in v. 10, there is no “various” or “different” here; the passage from the Greek is literally “to another, kinds of languages”. Verse 28...

Aut face aut tace.

I hate to state the obvious, but If you're striving to live your life in a Christ-like manner, close-minded comments such as these certainly aren't it. Perhaps you'd be so kind as to post a small sample (a minute would do it) of your tongues-speech here for analysis.

Well, since when it comes to something spoken, al Biblical references to "tongues" denote real, rational language(s), obviously they have not ceased.

I don't think you've debunked anything. Modern tongues-speech is what it is; non-cognitive non-language utterance.

Modern tongues-speech is an entirely self-created phenomenon. It is non-cognitive non-language utterance; random free vocalization based upon a subset of the existing underlying sounds (called phonemes) of the speaker’s native language, and any other language(s) the speaker may be familiar with...

1 Cor. 14:14-15 – This one could easily take a few pages to explain properly, but I'll try and sum it up as briefly as possible..... Again, you have to go to the Greek. This passage hinges on the Greek word “akarpos” – which can be used in two different ways: in an active sense and in a...

1Cor. 14:2 is perhaps the quintessential verse used by many to “evidence” modern tongues-speech in the Bible. If one were to paraphrase the KJB version of this verse into a more modern English, you'd need to get rid of the added “unknown”, use a more accurate translation from the Greek, and a...

Jews from Judea spoke Aramaic as their mother tongue. I don’t think there’s any argument there. Jews (as well as anyone else) from the Western Diaspora spoke Greek – all those lands had been Hellenized for centuries and Greek had long displaced indigenous languages. Jews adopted Koiné Greek...

Given the list of nations, we know that the Jews gathered in Jerusalem for Pentecost came from one of three places Judea, the Western Diaspora, and the Eastern Diaspora. You have to ask yourself, if I were a Jew living in one of these places in the 1st century, what would be my native language...

Not really going to get into this thread much - as a linguist, I have a very strong view of 'tongues-speech', and there are other threads where I go into it in some detail. But just just something to ponder....in the entire Pentecost narrative, not one language is ever referenced by name. The...

Yep - it's an old debate - it may be worth considering the following: People are taking this way too literally (kind of like the whole '40 days and 40 nights' thing). Like 40 days and 40 nights, 3 days and 3 nights is an idiomatic expression in Hebrew. Common knowledge to anyone living at the...

Can you give an exact source? I believe Augustus' quote is in reference to Herod having his sons executed; not the Holy Innocents.

"All false religions deny, redefine, or supplement some or all of the following truth:...." No, actually, that just reasserts religio-centrism in the extreme - if it doesn't conform 100% to my beliefs, it's false.

This quote is somewhat misleading - it has nothing to do with the Slaughter of the Innocents, but refers solely to Herod's sons. In view of these executions, Augustus reportedly quipped that, “It is better to be Herod’s pig than son” (Macrobius, Saturnalia, 2:4:11)—the joke being that, since...

Part 2 - What is fascinating is that even back then it was recognized that there must have been at one time some parent language, some “common tongue” for the various languages people encountered in their “world”. The (somewhat) mutual intelligibility between these languages, or at the very...

Guess this needs to be done in two parts. The Babel narrative is really quite fascinating from the perspective of historical linguistics in that it is one of very few ancient accounts of a people remembering (in a manner of speaking) the history of their language(s) - told of course in a...