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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    Jesus (as far as I understand) was talking about the baptism of death in that passage. Jesus was going to go down into death and come back up again (pass through death) on his way to "rest". I think he was telling them they, too, would suffer death on their path to "rest" in God. Love in...
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    There are plenty of people who want nothing to do with speaking in tongues OR baptism FOR REMISSION of sins. If you don't want either, don't receive them. You just won't stand before God and say you weren't told, or that they weren't available to you. Love in Jesus, Kelby
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    What does Mark 1:4 say baptism is for? Love in Jesus, Kelby
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    When it comes to ministering to MAN, not all will have diversities of tongues (speaking in multiple earthly languages by the spirit) nor will all have interpretations of tongues (interpreting the "unknown' tongues ((babbly talk / stammering lips)) into English). Because that's what type of...
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    BTW, water baptism isn't a "work" that we do. It's a gift (for lack of better wording) from God that we submit to. God established it (not man) for remission of sins (Mark 1:4, Luke 3:3, Acts 2:38,39). It's not wrong that we teach and preach it that way. It's just not congruent with the...
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    It's not difficult. It is just hidden to some, and rejected by others. Yet still available to all (that are yet alive). Too late once this life is over. Love in Jesus Kelby
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    It is also available to everyone, as those who keep quoting Acts 2:38-39 keep trying to point out.
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    Yes. That is very well said. Love in Jesus, Kelby
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    I'd read up to this post before needing to leave yesterday, and was about to scroll back to start at the beginning... But I like the topic of your last line. Someone once told me I needed to be born again some time AFTER I'd been water baptized AND Spirit baptized. I argued and battled against...
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    You weren't wrong in your assumption. I do believe that speaking in tongues is the evidence(witness) of a person receiving the Holy Ghost. So did those in the Acts 10:45-46 account (as is specifically stated). I didn't mention "speaking in tongues" in the OP because I wanted to see what...
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    Hi Live4Him2, I appreciate your reply and hope to read it more thoroughly tonight. On my brief reading this morning, the quoted section stood out most. I thought "Wow, this person actually read the scriptures that I'd referenced! That's commendable!" But I also realized there could be a...
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    Water baptism, since its establishment by John the Baptist (at God's commandment) is for remission of sins (Mark 1:4, Luke 3:3). Remission means separation from; removal of; washing away of. The name of Jesus was added after Jesus rose from the dead (Luke 24:47) and being water baptized...
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    I AM PUZZLED AS TO THE BIBLE BEING THE SOLE AUTHORITY OF GOD'S WORD

    This isn't so much of a disagreement as it is a clarification... Everyone may have their own viewpoint and their own beliefs about what they see, but I think it wrong to call all of those things "truths" (Some other word is needed). In the example of the twelve spies, each came back with a...
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    I AM PUZZLED AS TO THE BIBLE BEING THE SOLE AUTHORITY OF GOD'S WORD

    I've only read the first page of replies so far but want to share this before getting distracted: Everyone has the OPPORTUNITY to ask God for truth and about truth whether they have a bible or not (because some people don't have a bible but still need truth). The question is "Is the person...
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    Do you believe a person needs the Holy Ghost?

    I'll wait awhile before answering regarding differences because i consider myself VERY picky when it comes to what constitutes a Christian, and I don't want to dissuade you from speaking your mind freely. Although I am willing to answer clearly if you specifically ask for that. Meanwhile, I...
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    Do you believe a person needs the Holy Ghost?

    Thanks for answering. Love in Jesus, Kelby
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    Do you believe a person needs the Holy Ghost?

    Sorry if my post sounded too prescriptive. I just didn't want you to settle for "I think so". Love in Jesus, Kelby
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    Do you believe a person needs the Holy Ghost?

    If you want to know for sure what some experience is, use that speaking in tongues (praying in the spirit) that you've been given. The spirit searches all things and always prays according to the will of God. You're understanding doesn't have that ability. Love in Jesus, Kelby
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    Do you believe a person needs the Holy Ghost?

    In the example of Acts 19, at exactly what point do they receive the Holy Ghost? And is that consistent with your idea of when a person should receive the Holy Ghost? In other words, does it say they receive the Holy Ghost at confession (of something)? I propose that people wrongly assume...
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    Deep Things of God

    I appreciate and consider your answer. I think there are few who notice the mention of that particular aspect of wisdom... and I don't expect to find others who would answer that verse to my posting. Might I ask what you particularly believe it takes to win a soul? Love in Jesus, Kelby