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yes.. But satan is the master of keeping people decieved

its funny, if you push, it usually comes out.. that is where it comes from.

its also the arminian calvin debate. a few years ago in this very chatroom it got so bad. they banned numerous people from both sides. its sad that people may spend eternity in hell because they hate a doctrine of man.

we do this for you and those like you every day..

you replace works of the law with your own works. your incuring debt not grace. turn to God. become poor in spirit. be like the tax collector. reject the phariseeic doctrine you hold on to.

alot of it today comes from Anti Calvinist or Anti reformed Stance. they feel OSAS is a Calvinist doctrine. so they must defeat it at all cost.

I do understand Grace is from the greek Charis, from where we get our word Charity.'' Charity is a bad word to most people. How dare you think I need charity. its why they reject grace. because in reality that is what it is. we must become poor in spirit.. If we think we can in some part do...

under grace it means that you can not earn something by what you do or do not do. and you cannot unearn it.

The promises of God. Abraham has faith and God saved him. He did the same for me. I am sorry you do not trust in Gods promises. ultimate aim of the doctrine you present is the abolishment of obdience to God if you can not understand your false accusation against what I believe.. then you...

Well I was baptised a year after I was saved. and will hopefully be baptising a few people here in the near future. but thanks for your false accusation Obey th gospel my friend. become as the tax collector. do not try to get to god like the pharisee. you will not be happy

I asked you if you do it perfectly. Not if you do it better than others, do you?

and you do that perfectly?

A work is done to earn a wage, To receive a reward. Biblically, it is somethign you can boast in. You need to repent of works which can not save you. they are dead works. meaningless. because you will not be rewarded for them.

you are in a world all of your own making my friend. And? does it say that we are saved by doing these things? Ah//No your just like the pharisees. Pumping your chest. Pointing out all the sinners. and praising God your not like them. Good luck with that

I guess it is finished, I did my part now you do yours.. so in reality, it really is not finished. april fools

Well yes. I would like to outlaw people who are tryign to impose water baptism in place of spirit baptism. for just like the jew who imposed physical circumcision. they are teaching a false gospel. which paul said should be anathema I serve God But replacing his grace with works will earn you...

once again, if we say we have no sin, we decieve ourselves. You are decieved. and I will move on.. No need to beat a dead horse when someone pumps his chest.

But no one calls a person a pharisee because they did that. No. You turn the grace of God to legalsim. Like the jews did. well good luck being like the pharisee. I will pray for you

if we say we have no sin, we decieve ourselves and there is no truth in us You want to be decieved, feel free. But don;t expect me or others to pat you on the back because you think you have made it to where paul himself did not even make it

exactly