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  1. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Only God has this authority and God does not clearly say there was a change. It is clearly stated which day God set with authority = Saturday 7th day. No scripture can be given to show that God changed the day. Acts 20:7, 1 Corth 16:2, are not evidence that God changed the day...
  2. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Your not giving any scriptures to back up your presumptions. Where in the Bible before the death of Jesus did the Sabbath get changed? A will or covenant is set once the blood of the testator has died. No changes after the death... the apostles did not keep Sunday as the Sabbath.
  3. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the...
  4. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Knowing that a testament or will or covenant can not be changed or altered after the death of the testator. When did Jesus enforce Sunday or remove the 4th commandment?
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    Jas 2:8-12 8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point...
  6. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    It is okay... this subject has been debated for a long time. But I'll say it like this... Day 1 = Friday. Day 2 = sabbath Day 3 = Sunday. "three days and three nights" is a Hebrew idiom where a part of a day is counted as a whole day. This rule is applied in both biblical and...
  7. TMS

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    God gave the law to His children.. The wall of separation has been broken down. I hope you are a child of God. Heb 8:7-8 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. 8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith...
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    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Rom 13:9-10 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love...
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    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Rom 13:9-10 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love...
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    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Rom 13:9-10 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love...
  11. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Did God give the 10 commandments? Does God hate the 10 commandments? The covenant failed but the part that failed was not the perfect law of God. The part that failed was the promises of the people. They could not obey.. But today we have a better covenant.. Based on better...
  12. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    I'm grafted into the family of God. I'm a child of God I'm a seed of Abraham. Gal 3:29. Rom 9:6-8 A child of promise like Isaac. Gal 4:28. God has not cast away His people, but He has redefined "Israel" not by physical lineage, but by the "election of grace." This means that both Jews...
  13. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    when did Sunday become the Lords day? When did the old covenant get set in place and by what process? It was started at Mt. Sinai. And how was it ratified? = By the sprinkling of the blood of an ox. How was the New Covenant ratified? By the blood of Christ, The death of Christ on the Cross...
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    Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: I'm adopted in by Christ. I'm not a gentile.
  15. TMS

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    By faith in the coming Messiah the old pointed to Jesus. By faith in Jesus the new points to Jesus. The old system of blood offering did not save people. But Jesus's blood does.
  16. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    I want to say soooo much.... but I'm not getting side tracked. Jud 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. Jesus didn't bring a railing accusation...
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    No I serve God because I love Him Don't judge my motives. Read all of Daniel 3 Dan 3:16-18 16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter. 17 If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us...
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    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    I agree that There is a new covenant. But when was the new covenant made and what are the grounds or conditions of the new? The old covenant was not the first..... God made covenants with Adam, Noah, Abraham... Exo 19:5-6 5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my...
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    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Our church meets on Wednesday, and Saturday but that does not change which day God blessed and sanctified. Adam could eat of which ever tree he wanted, he had freedom to eat of any tree. but it does not change the fact that God had set aside the tree that would result in sin. Just because...
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    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Gen 2:2-3 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. He rested on the...