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    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    The Bible maintains a clear and vital distinction between the moral law of the Ten Commandments and the ceremonial law of ordinances. While both were given by God, they serve different purposes: one is an eternal transcript of God's character, while the other was a shadowy system of types...
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    If we are going to be judged, And the judgement will determine our eternal life or eternal death, do you think the judge needs to be clear about the standard? How we are judged? If we sin (only one sin, any sin, which is the transgression of the law), we are worthy of death and should be...
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    I posted this a week ago and no one explained how we can freely transgress the 4th commandment. James is clear that you are transgressing all when you transgress one. The sabbath is one of the laws. " Jas 2:10-12 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is...
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    Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Rom 8:8-10 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in...
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    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    The law is different. One was written on stone by God and placed inside the ark, under the mercy seat. The other was written by Moses as he was directed by God and placed in the side of the ark. The covenant made with Israel included the different laws.. one covenant, multiple laws. The...
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    "When the law is viewed as a way to earn salvation or is kept through human strength alone, it becomes a galling yoke of bondage; however, when written in the heart by the Holy Spirit, it becomes a perfect law of liberty and a source of supreme joy." These the words I used. Humans are not able...
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    But no law = no sin. To understand why "no law" would mean "no sin," we must first look at how the Bible defines sin. Sin is not an abstract concept; it is specifically defined by the moral standard God has set for the universe. The most direct definition is found in 1 John 3:4, which states...
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    There were 2 laws given One was given by Moses from God, the other was given by God directly. The moral law—the Ten Commandments—was spoken directly by the mouth of God to the people and written by His own finger, while the ceremonial law (the law of Moses) was dictated to and given by the...
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    Do we choose? Do we have any part to play? If not it is all God's fault that we are lost. All the power comes from God but we must surrender self. We must choose to walk in the Spirit and chose not to walk in the flesh. Without Christ we can do nothing but He does not force us to obey...
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    What is the new covenant? A better covenant because Jesus has given His blood and we should look at the 2 sides of the Old (God's and mans) and ask what was wrong with God's part in the old? Was God wrong or did God make any mistakes in His part of the Old covenant. No. The people failed...
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    Luk 4:15-16 15 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all. 16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. It was Jesus's custom to go to the synagogue (church). He never...
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    Jas 2:10-12 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do...
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    This is presumption. Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Why did God put the 7th day sabbath in the 10 commandments and all the other sabbaths were given separately? Why didn't God give the 4th...
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    The difference between the old and the new is Jesus... one was looking forward to a Messiah and had cerimonial laws that were a shadow. The new looks directly at the life of Jesus and sacrifice. The moral law does not change. The new is better because the blood of Jesus is better then the...
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    Sabbath days (plural) were different to the Sabbath day. Days vs day. The sabbaths that were introduced at Sinai through Moses were nailed to the cross. but THE SABBATH introduced at creation has not changed.
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    There are at least 2 laws in the old testament. The problem that many have is that they put them all together.... Keep the law or commandments. Mat 19:17 .....but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war...
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    The shadows did give way to the substance. At the cross in the middle of the 70th week. Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall...
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    Jesus is my rest too. But that does not remove the sabbath rest. Jesus is the light of the world. John 8:12. This does not mean literal light is not needed. Or the literal light disappears.
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    When Jesus said... Mat 5:17-18 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. He was saying the...
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    The law reveals the moral standard. It does not save us or empower us. Jesus saves us The gift from Jesus empowers us. Why was the sermon on the Mount given by Jesus? Why are the Psalms given? Why was the Bible inspired by God? The bible would not be needed if the Spirit teaches us all...