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...my biblical reasons for believing this, so won't go into all that in this post) ... which could also be called... --Pre-70th-Week; --Pre-DOTL (when "the DOTL" and "IN THAT DAY" are used in the SAME contexts, they are referring to the SAME time-period... and Paul does so in 2Th1 and...

Jeremiah 9:3 - "And they bend their tongues like their bow [H7198] for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD." Hosea 7:16 - "They return, but not to the most High: they are like a deceitful bow...

..."FOR JUDGMENT [to execute JUDGMENT]" per Hab1:12, He can use whatever "instruments" He chooses. (re: who or what the riders of the horses are, in the Seals [START of Trib yrs / DOTL]). [as I've pointed out in many past threads, 2Th2:7b-8a is SIMILAR LANGUAGE to that of Lam2:3]

..."son of perdition" etc...) Again, "bow" often means "deception"... and Paul said the FIRST "BIRTH PANG [SINGULAR]" is "exactly like" how "THE DOTL" will ARRIVE, and Jesus SAID the FIRST OF THOSE is "[beware of] A CERTAIN ONE [G5100]" ...that is, "A CERTAIN ONE" bringing deception! ("FOR...

Jesus, in His Olivet Discourse, is not covering the Subject of "our Rapture / SNATCH [G726]"; He is responding to questions... and verse 3 that the disciples asked Him was BASED ON what He had ALREADY SPOKEN to them about in Matt13:24,30,39,40,49-50 (re: the END [singular] of the AGE [singular]"...

...occurs in the FIRST HALF, associated with vv.4-8's "the BEGINNING of birth PANGS" (Paul, using the SAME Grk word [but in the SINGULAR], says the DOTL ARRIVES "exactly like" the FIRST ONE OF THOSE! 1Th5:1-3), aka "the SEALS" at the START of the "IN QUICKNESS [NOUN; Rev1:1 / 1:19c / 4:1]" time...

:) I pretty much agree with you that "the resurrection the first [adj]" will take place IN PHASES. (IOW, Rev20:5b [re: v.4b] isn't the first TIME resurrection will have taken place; it's speaking about "first" IN QUALITY, not in TIME, like you say) . Happy to know we can agree on something. = )...

"The DOTL" consists of all three of the following: 1) the 7-yr / 70th Week (judgments unfolding upon the earth--the "IN THE NIGHT" aspect); 2) His/Christ's Second Coming to the earth (the "SUN of righteousness ARISE" aspect); AND 3) the ENTIRE MK age (1000 yrs--the "reign... GLORIOUSLY" aspect)...

...the "Seals" of Rev6, which fall WITHIN the time period of the "7 years"/"70th Week of Daniel". And Paul (in 1Th5:2-3) says the ARRIVAL of the DOTL is "exactly like [hosper; G5618]" the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR]" OF those "beginning of birth PANGS [PLURAL]" (the very ones Jesus had...

...will be "caught up [/snatched-out]" (and "changed," of course) immediately preceding THAT POINT in the chronology [we will NOT enter the "TRIB / DOTL [trib aspect]"], which COMMENCES with "SEAL #1 / the INITIAL birth PANG [SINGULAR; 1Th5:1-3, aka Matt24:4/Mk13:5 I just spelled out in an...

...the ideas conveyed in Rev5:9 (and its context), "hast redeemed US out-of EVERY..." (PRESENT UP THERE before the FIRST SEAL is unleased ["the DOTL" / TRIB aspect]), after having been PROMISED TO BE CLOTHED in "white himation" in chpt 3 ("the things WHICH ARE" section), as they are SHOWN...

...PANGS" (i.e. the "SEALS"--that are IN the "in quickness [noun]" time period spoken of "Rev1:1 / 1:19c / 4:1" aka the "7-yr Trib")... which Paul states the ARRIVAL of "the DOTL" time-period is at the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR]" of those (well-prior to Christ's Second Coming TO THE EARTH...

...point, whereas "the beginning of birth PANGS / the SEALS" start way back at the beginning of the whole "7 year period" [at the ARRIVAL OF "the DOTL" time-period, that Paul said was NOT here yet! and won't be, without its KEY PLAYER--"IN HIS TIME"]; whereas "the tribulation the GREAT" is only...

......and to address your question about WHY we aren't coming "RIGHT BACK DOWN" once we are "caught UP / SNATCHED [G726]" (PRIOR TO "the DOTL" time-period ['DARK / DARKNESS' / 'IN THE NIGHT' aspect, i.e. prior to the TRIB]) which will thereafter commence to unfold upon the earth ("[ye who are...

...Coming to the earth (Rev19), but will still be in existence then (as well as throughout the entire MK age--All three aspects pertain to that/DOTL); --I do not believe that these "Sheep" will be saved by works, but that these particular works (during the Trib yrs) will be evidence of their...

..."SHALL SEND TO THEM strong delusion, SO THAT *they* should believe THE LIE / THE FALSE / THE PSEUDEI" *in / during / within* the Trib years [the DOTL's "judgments" aspect]; whereas others (as Paul shows in the other bookended section) will being coming to faith in Christ (in / during / within...

...3x in this context (meaning, the SEQUENCE between one thing [a 'definite' event, v.1 (our exit UP!)] and the other thing [the earthly-located DOTL / which at its arrival, "the man of sin BE REVEALED"]); The "false claim" that Paul is exhorting them not to believe (v.2) is: "[purporting]...

Yes. (y) Because "the DOTL" STARTS *when* the TRIB starts (the TRIB yrs is its first leg of the duration of it, so to speak). What most "mis-understand" is that "the Day of the Lord" ARRIVES / STARTS *when* the "whose COMING / ADVENT / ARRIVAL / PAROUSIA" of the man of sin does (when he is...

...on the content of your OP. How I see the phrase "the Day of the Lord" in the OT is that it sometimes refers to "this or that ASPECT OF" the DOTL time period, context determining which... So where you believe Joel 2 is saying that "the DOTL" STARTS with this particular war, I see vv.1-2a as...

...the earthly MK age]"); --however, when scripture refers to "the Day of the Lord" (and earthly-located TIME-PERIOD), it ADDS the phrase, "[the DOTL shall come as] A THIEF IN THE NIGHT" (1Th5:1-3)--Notice that when a text speaks of Jesus HIMSELF it NEVER uses this "[come...] IN THE NIGHT"...