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...PANGS" (i.e. the "SEALS"--that are IN the "in quickness [noun]" time period spoken of "Rev1:1 / 1:19c / 4:1" aka the "7-yr Trib")... which Paul states the ARRIVAL of "the DOTL" time-period is at the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR]" of those (well-prior to Christ's Second Coming TO THE EARTH...

...point, whereas "the beginning of birth PANGS / the SEALS" start way back at the beginning of the whole "7 year period" [at the ARRIVAL OF "the DOTL" time-period, that Paul said was NOT here yet! and won't be, without its KEY PLAYER--"IN HIS TIME"]; whereas "the tribulation the GREAT" is only...

......and to address your question about WHY we aren't coming "RIGHT BACK DOWN" once we are "caught UP / SNATCHED [G726]" (PRIOR TO "the DOTL" time-period ['DARK / DARKNESS' / 'IN THE NIGHT' aspect, i.e. prior to the TRIB]) which will thereafter commence to unfold upon the earth ("[ye who are...

...Coming to the earth (Rev19), but will still be in existence then (as well as throughout the entire MK age--All three aspects pertain to that/DOTL); --I do not believe that these "Sheep" will be saved by works, but that these particular works (during the Trib yrs) will be evidence of their...

..."SHALL SEND TO THEM strong delusion, SO THAT *they* should believe THE LIE / THE FALSE / THE PSEUDEI" *in / during / within* the Trib years [the DOTL's "judgments" aspect]; whereas others (as Paul shows in the other bookended section) will being coming to faith in Christ (in / during / within...

...3x in this context (meaning, the SEQUENCE between one thing [a 'definite' event, v.1 (our exit UP!)] and the other thing [the earthly-located DOTL / which at its arrival, "the man of sin BE REVEALED"]); The "false claim" that Paul is exhorting them not to believe (v.2) is: "[purporting]...

Yes. (y) Because "the DOTL" STARTS *when* the TRIB starts (the TRIB yrs is its first leg of the duration of it, so to speak). What most "mis-understand" is that "the Day of the Lord" ARRIVES / STARTS *when* the "whose COMING / ADVENT / ARRIVAL / PAROUSIA" of the man of sin does (when he is...

...on the content of your OP. How I see the phrase "the Day of the Lord" in the OT is that it sometimes refers to "this or that ASPECT OF" the DOTL time period, context determining which... So where you believe Joel 2 is saying that "the DOTL" STARTS with this particular war, I see vv.1-2a as...

...the earthly MK age]"); --however, when scripture refers to "the Day of the Lord" (and earthly-located TIME-PERIOD), it ADDS the phrase, "[the DOTL shall come as] A THIEF IN THE NIGHT" (1Th5:1-3)--Notice that when a text speaks of Jesus HIMSELF it NEVER uses this "[come...] IN THE NIGHT"...

...thinking that "the Day of the Lord" IS [only referencing] "Christ's Second Coming [to the earth]" [A MOMENT IN TIME] as though it is only "ONE SINGULAR 24-HR DAY" kind of "day" being talked about, by Peter in this text. Not so! The "IN WHICH" SPANS a VERY LENGTHY time-period ["the DOTL"])

...not say "immediately after"... No.) Paul uses the same Greek word (in the singular; the INITIAL 'birth-PANG') to explain that THAT is WHEN "the DOTL" will ARRIVE (and he says it will not "be present" without its star player "the man of sin"--his "whose COMING / ADVENT / ARRIVAL / PRESENCE /...

...of the "7-year period"... not speaking of the END of that (when He "RETURNS" to the earth, Rev19), as many suppose to be the case (of WHEN the "DOTL" arrives or commences--No, it's rather PRIOR TO that point in the chronology, starting with SEAL #1 / the FIRST "BP" Jesus mentioned [Matt24:4 /...

...LOCATION!)... and 2Th2:1-2 in view of 1Th5:1-3 [Paul speaking of Jesus' mention of the "beginning of birth PANGS [PL]" and Paul stating that the DOTL will ARRIVE "exactly like [hosper]" the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR]"]... then it is unmistakable (meaning, the sequence / chronology)...

...AIR)] with the DISTINCT Subject of v.2's false claim Paul is telling about, which false claim is: "that the Day of the Lord IS PRESENT" [which "DOTL" is entirely HORIZONTAL and "earthly-located"!] They are NOT the SAME THING (as many suppose). --the false claim (Paul is telling them...

...when used in the SAME CONTEXTS (throughout scripture) always speak to the SAME TIME PERIOD (of which ever context they are found together in [whichever aspect OF the DOTL the particular context is covering]); and this CONTEXT of 2Th1&2 (two chpts) is no different (i.e. it also uses both phrases)

...AT TRUMPET #1 (8:7-10; 7:3), which commences WELL BEFORE the "5th Trumpet" (MID-point); --"the beginning of birth PANGS" (which Paul says "the DOTL" ARRIVES at the INITIAL ONE OF THOSE, 1Th5:1-3) ARE the "SEALS"... and the SEALS are WITHIN the "in quickness [noun]" time-period WHICH IS "the...

...4:1 "SHOW you") ... not "things" which would unfold over the course of some 2000 years. [and Paul says one of the evidences that "the DOTL" would "be present" (for that to be a true statement)--which ARRIVES "exactly like" the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR;1Th5:3]"--is that "the man...

...at SEAL #1 which IS the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR]" that Jesus spoke of (i.e. Matt24:4 / Mk13:5--the VERY FIRST ONE!)... and that "the DOTL" commences with "WRATH" (that which we are promised not to be here for)... The text in 1Th1:10 just says, "[the One delivering us out-from] THE WRATH...

...7-yr period (NOT when there is 3.5 yrs remaining to the Second Coming); --This text (coupled with what we know Paul ALREADY told us re: "the DOTL's ARRIVAL" in 1Th5:3) is saying in v.1, "BY REASON OF ...our episynagoges UNTO HIM" [IN THE AIR] that we should believe NO ONE saying "that the...

...(SEAL #1) / "A CERTAIN ONE [G5100; Mt24:4/Mk13:5!]" bringing deception, at the START of the future 7-yr Trib years (aka, the ARRIVAL of "the DOTL"--JUDGMENTS unfolding upon the earth over SOME TIME [7 yrs / 2520 days]); --you are conflating these two distinct persons; Dan11:31-35 has a...